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<title >The $120 Billion Man: Poverty, Power &amp; Why Jobs Fix Everything | Ajay Banga x Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Ajay Banga took Mastercard from a $30 billion company to $360 billion in a decade, was the frontrunner to run Citibank's quarter of a million people, quit to become CEO of a company with 4,000 — and today runs the World Bank Group, a $120 billion-a-year institution that was originally built to rebuild Europe and Japan after the Second World War and now exists to kill poverty by creating jobs. He says 600 million people in Africa have zero electricity and he doesn't mean inadequate electricity he means black none, that 1.2 billion young people in the developing world will turn 18 in the next 15 years with only 400 million jobs projected for them, that if you don't give them hope the demographic dividend stops being a light at the end of the tunnel and becomes a freight train, that the five sectors governments should obsess over are infrastructure and smallholder farming and primary healthcare and tourism and value-added manufacturing, that India gets fewer tourists a year than a country a fraction of its size and cultural weight, that the World Bank financed Japan's bullet trains and France's nuclear plants and helped create HDFC, that every dollar invested in tourism creates more jobs than a dollar in any other sector, that fossil fuels aren't going away but energy security is becoming a national security question, that small AI delivered on a phone to an illiterate farmer matters more to the developing world than large language models, that life is 50% luck but most people leave their luck on the station platform and forget about it, and that the only way to put a nail in the coffin of poverty is to give somebody a job because earnings are not just subsistence — they are hope and optimism and the belief that tomorrow will be better than today</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:26 AJ's career journey across industries</p><p>09:00 Consumption patterns and consumer insecurity</p><p>15:00 World Bank's five-part structure explained</p><p>22:00 Killing poverty through job creation</p><p>29:00 Primary healthcare and farmer empowerment</p><p>35:00 Wealth concentration versus societal prosperity spread</p><p>42:00 Demographic dividend becoming freight train</p><p>49:00 Five sectors driving future jobs</p><p>56:00 Decency quotient over IQ EQ</p><p>1:03:00 Energy security and nuclear opportunities</p><p>1:10:00 Forward thinking beats historical grievances</p><p>1:17:00 Luck flexibility and taking risks</p><p>1:23:00 Closing message on optimism</p><p><br></p><p>Nikhil Kamath Entrepreneur & Investor</p><p><br></p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-bank-group/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-bank-group/</a></p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/WorldBankGroup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/WorldBankGroup</a></p><p>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Ajay Banga took Mastercard from a $30 billion company to $360 billion in a decade, was the frontrunner to run Citibank's quarter of a million people, quit to become CEO of a company with 4,000 — and today runs the World Bank Group, a $120 billion-a-year institution that was originally built to rebuild Europe and Japan after the Second World War and now exists to kill poverty by creating jobs. He says 600 million people in Africa have zero electricity and he doesn't mean inadequate electricity he means black none, that 1.2 billion young people in the developing world will turn 18 in the next 15 years with only 400 million jobs projected for them, that if you don't give them hope the demographic dividend stops being a light at the end of the tunnel and becomes a freight train, that the five sectors governments should obsess over are infrastructure and smallholder farming and primary healthcare and tourism and value-added manufacturing, that India gets fewer tourists a year than a country a fraction of its size and cultural weight, that the World Bank financed Japan's bullet trains and France's nuclear plants and helped create HDFC, that every dollar invested in tourism creates more jobs than a dollar in any other sector, that fossil fuels aren't going away but energy security is becoming a national security question, that small AI delivered on a phone to an illiterate farmer matters more to the developing world than large language models, that life is 50% luck but most people leave their luck on the station platform and forget about it, and that the only way to put a nail in the coffin of poverty is to give somebody a job because earnings are not just subsistence — they are hope and optimism and the belief that tomorrow will be better than today</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>02:26 AJ's career journey across industries</p><p>09:00 Consumption patterns and consumer insecurity</p><p>15:00 World Bank's five-part structure explained</p><p>22:00 Killing poverty through job creation</p><p>29:00 Primary healthcare and farmer empowerment</p><p>35:00 Wealth concentration versus societal prosperity spread</p><p>42:00 Demographic dividend becoming freight train</p><p>49:00 Five sectors driving future jobs</p><p>56:00 Decency quotient over IQ EQ</p><p>1:03:00 Energy security and nuclear opportunities</p><p>1:10:00 Forward thinking beats historical grievances</p><p>1:17:00 Luck flexibility and taking risks</p><p>1:23:00 Closing message on optimism</p><p><br></p><p>Nikhil Kamath Entrepreneur & Investor</p><p><br></p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-bank-group/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-world-bank-group/</a></p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/WorldBankGroup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/WorldBankGroup</a></p><p>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Ajay Banga x Nikhil Kamath | Ep. Trailer | People by WTF</title>
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<pubDate >Sat, 18 Apr 2026 05:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent;">Ajay Banga took Mastercard from a $30 billion company to $360 billion, left when he was the frontrunner to run Citibank's 250,000 people, and now controls $120 billion a year as the President of the World Bank Group — the institution that was built after the Second World War to stop poverty from turning into war. He says life is 50% luck but most people leave their luck on the station platform, that India gets under 20 million tourists a year which is insane for a country with beaches, mountains, culture, history, food and what he calls cool people, and that the world is about to have 1.2 billion young people turn 18 with only 400 million jobs waiting for them — and if you don't give them hope, the demographic dividend becomes a freight train. Full episode drops soon.</span></p><p><br></p><p>Nikhil Kamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>World Bank Group:</p><ul><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/WorldBankGroup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/WorldBankGroup</a></li><li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="background-color: transparent;">Ajay Banga took Mastercard from a $30 billion company to $360 billion, left when he was the frontrunner to run Citibank's 250,000 people, and now controls $120 billion a year as the President of the World Bank Group — the institution that was built after the Second World War to stop poverty from turning into war. He says life is 50% luck but most people leave their luck on the station platform, that India gets under 20 million tourists a year which is insane for a country with beaches, mountains, culture, history, food and what he calls cool people, and that the world is about to have 1.2 billion young people turn 18 with only 400 million jobs waiting for them — and if you don't give them hope, the demographic dividend becomes a freight train. Full episode drops soon.</span></p><p><br></p><p>Nikhil Kamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>World Bank Group:</p><ul><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/WorldBankGroup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/WorldBankGroup</a></li><li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/worldbankgroup/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Rishi Sunak &amp; Akshata Murty: Dharma, Failure &amp; The Middle Path | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Rishi Sunak says patience is a bigger competitive advantage than speed, that every decision that reaches a leader is 50-50 by definition because if it weren't someone else would have made it, that the long term is just a succession of short terms you either survived or got kicked out of, and that the thing he wishes he'd done more of in his career is read fiction — because non-fiction tells you what to do and how to do it but fiction teaches you why and gives you a deeper understanding of people.</p><p>Akshata Murty says her identity was never her father's name or her husband's title, that the middle path between stoicism and epicureanism is where the answer almost always lives, and that the validation she chases is impact — not position, not wealth, not the approval of people who've already decided who she is.</p><p>First couple's episode we've ever done, and it went places none of us expected.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>06:04 Foundery: India's consumer brand accelerator</p><p>12:20 Storytelling as a leadership superpower</p><p>18:05 Parents' pharmacy inspired political career</p><p>24:04 Educating children in the AI era</p><p>30:05 Leaning into human skills over AI</p><p>36:17 How Rishi and Akshata decide differently</p><p>42:10 Goldman Sachs to Prime Minister journey</p><p>48:03 Patience as an underrated competitive advantage</p><p>54:15 Entering politics: resilience, patience, service</p><p>1:00:06 Staying unapologetically Indian in British politics</p><p>1:06:51 Life inside 10 Downing Street</p><p>1:12:20 AI sovereignty and global trade tensions</p><p>1:18:32 De-globalisation and supply chain resilience</p><p>1:24:38 Free trade, tariffs, and level playing fields</p><p>1:31:17 Akshata's identity beyond famous family</p><p>1:37:53 Validation through impact, not inheritance</p><p>1:44:04 Finding balance between desire and austerity</p><p>1:50:04 Being kind to yourself after failure</p><p>1:56:42 Identity, heritage, and the living bridge</p><p>2:03:03 Nostalgic Bangalore food and childhood memories</p><p>2:09:05 Why young Indians should enter politics</p><p>2:16:03 Education, financial literacy, and compounding</p><p>2:22:04 Learning to learn in the AI age</p><p>2:29:52 How Rishi and Akshata use AI daily</p><p>2:37:09 Can AI truly be creative?</p><p>2:44:06 Losing the Prime Ministership: lessons in dharma</p><p>2:51:30 Poets versus politicians: who should we hear?</p><p>2:58:17 Motivating young people to shape policy</p><h3><strong>Nikhil Kamath</strong></h3><p>Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of <em>'WTF is'</em> & <em>'People By WTF'</em> Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3><strong>Rishi Sunak</strong></h3><ul><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak</a></li><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3><strong>Akshata Murty</strong></h3><ul><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline</a></li><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/anmurty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/anmurty</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3><strong>Watch on Spotify</strong></h3><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath</p><p>#PeopleByWTF</p><p>#WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Rishi Sunak says patience is a bigger competitive advantage than speed, that every decision that reaches a leader is 50-50 by definition because if it weren't someone else would have made it, that the long term is just a succession of short terms you either survived or got kicked out of, and that the thing he wishes he'd done more of in his career is read fiction — because non-fiction tells you what to do and how to do it but fiction teaches you why and gives you a deeper understanding of people.</p><p>Akshata Murty says her identity was never her father's name or her husband's title, that the middle path between stoicism and epicureanism is where the answer almost always lives, and that the validation she chases is impact — not position, not wealth, not the approval of people who've already decided who she is.</p><p>First couple's episode we've ever done, and it went places none of us expected.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 Introduction</p><p>06:04 Foundery: India's consumer brand accelerator</p><p>12:20 Storytelling as a leadership superpower</p><p>18:05 Parents' pharmacy inspired political career</p><p>24:04 Educating children in the AI era</p><p>30:05 Leaning into human skills over AI</p><p>36:17 How Rishi and Akshata decide differently</p><p>42:10 Goldman Sachs to Prime Minister journey</p><p>48:03 Patience as an underrated competitive advantage</p><p>54:15 Entering politics: resilience, patience, service</p><p>1:00:06 Staying unapologetically Indian in British politics</p><p>1:06:51 Life inside 10 Downing Street</p><p>1:12:20 AI sovereignty and global trade tensions</p><p>1:18:32 De-globalisation and supply chain resilience</p><p>1:24:38 Free trade, tariffs, and level playing fields</p><p>1:31:17 Akshata's identity beyond famous family</p><p>1:37:53 Validation through impact, not inheritance</p><p>1:44:04 Finding balance between desire and austerity</p><p>1:50:04 Being kind to yourself after failure</p><p>1:56:42 Identity, heritage, and the living bridge</p><p>2:03:03 Nostalgic Bangalore food and childhood memories</p><p>2:09:05 Why young Indians should enter politics</p><p>2:16:03 Education, financial literacy, and compounding</p><p>2:22:04 Learning to learn in the AI age</p><p>2:29:52 How Rishi and Akshata use AI daily</p><p>2:37:09 Can AI truly be creative?</p><p>2:44:06 Losing the Prime Ministership: lessons in dharma</p><p>2:51:30 Poets versus politicians: who should we hear?</p><p>2:58:17 Motivating young people to shape policy</p><h3><strong>Nikhil Kamath</strong></h3><p>Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of <em>'WTF is'</em> & <em>'People By WTF'</em> Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3><strong>Rishi Sunak</strong></h3><ul><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak</a></li><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3><strong>Akshata Murty</strong></h3><ul><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline</a></li><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/anmurty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/anmurty</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li></ul><h3><br></h3><h3><strong>Watch on Spotify</strong></h3><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath</p><p>#PeopleByWTF</p><p>#WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Rishi Sunak &amp; Akshata Murty : Marriage, Power &amp; Losing All In Public | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF</title>
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<pubDate >Mon, 23 Mar 2026 09:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Rishi Sunak says he could not function without his marriage, that losing the most public job in the world taught him that the Gita was right about focusing on dharma and not outcomes, and that the blank canvas at 45 is more exciting than the track that got him there. Akshata Murty says she’s not stuck on being her father’s daughter or her husband’s wife, she is clear on who she is than any title ever made her and the answer to most things lives in balance, somewhere between stoicism and epicureanism. First couple's episode. Full conversation drops soon.</span></p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#rishisunak Former PM of the UK</p><ul><li>Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20</a></li><li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/</a></li><li>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li><li>LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishi-sunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishi-sunak</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#akshatamurty Businesswoman and Philanthropist</p><ul><li>Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/anmurty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/anmurty</a></li><li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/</a></li><li>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li><li>LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshata-murty-5a04232" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshata-murty-5a04232</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent;">Rishi Sunak says he could not function without his marriage, that losing the most public job in the world taught him that the Gita was right about focusing on dharma and not outcomes, and that the blank canvas at 45 is more exciting than the track that got him there. Akshata Murty says she’s not stuck on being her father’s daughter or her husband’s wife, she is clear on who she is than any title ever made her and the answer to most things lives in balance, somewhere between stoicism and epicureanism. First couple's episode. Full conversation drops soon.</span></p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#rishisunak Former PM of the UK</p><ul><li>Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@rishisunak</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/RishiSunak?s=20</a></li><li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/</a></li><li>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li><li>LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishi-sunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishi-sunak</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#akshatamurty Businesswoman and Philanthropist</p><ul><li>Youtube - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/@akshataonline</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/anmurty" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/anmurty</a></li><li>Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/rishisunakmp/</a></li><li>Facebook - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/rishisunak</a></li><li>LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshata-murty-5a04232" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshata-murty-5a04232</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >I can&apos;t believe I said this</title>
<link >https://listen.hubhopper.com/episode/i-cant-believe-i-said-this/32992497</link>
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<pubDate >Mon, 23 Mar 2026 09:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>One of them says the Gita's line on duty over outcomes is what got him through the most public failure of his life. The other says her identity has never been her father's name or her husband's title. They've been together 20 years and still argue about ice cream flavours. First couple's episode we've ever done.</p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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<title >Pain, Power &amp; The Game Nobody Wins | Chamath Palihapitiya x Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF</title>
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<pubDate >Mon, 02 Mar 2026 14:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">I sat down with Chamath Palihapitiya. He sold a company to Nvidia for $20 billion, woke up the next morning, saw $13 billion hit the account, and felt nothing. This is a guy who grew up in a home with alcoholism and abuse, immigrated to Canada with nothing, lost billions on SPACs, rebuilt, and now says the whole game is exactly that — a game. We got into the uncomfortable stuff: why pain is the single best predictor of entrepreneurial success, why investing is never a team sport and anyone who says otherwise is losing money, and why Bitcoin has a structural flaw that will permanently cap its ceiling. Chamath makes the case that Trump is the most effective political athlete America has ever seen, that some form of socialism is probably inevitable if we don't fix student debt and housing, and that his next obsession is building the machine that makes the machine — a software factory for the AI era.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 Introduction</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">06:09 Chamath’s Painful Childhood & Hunger</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">11:16 What Actually Matters Beyond Success</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">17:06 Business as a Game, Not Life</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">22:04 The Machine That Makes Machines</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">29:11 Trump, Trade & America’s Political Reset</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:30 Investing Lessons: Conviction Over Consensus</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">43:12 Bitcoin’s Structural Flaws & Limitations</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">49:56 The Conceptual Stack for AI Investing</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">55:12 AI Hype, Valuations & Catastrophising</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">58:26 Socialism’s Inevitable Rise & Boundary Fixes</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:03:48 Building Sovereign Social Media from India</span></p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter : <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn : <span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</span></li><li>Facebook : <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#chamathpalihapitiya</p><ul><li>LinkedIN : <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/chamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/chamath</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #chamath #chamathpalihapitiya #nvidia #software #ai #business #trump #podcast</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">I sat down with Chamath Palihapitiya. He sold a company to Nvidia for $20 billion, woke up the next morning, saw $13 billion hit the account, and felt nothing. This is a guy who grew up in a home with alcoholism and abuse, immigrated to Canada with nothing, lost billions on SPACs, rebuilt, and now says the whole game is exactly that — a game. We got into the uncomfortable stuff: why pain is the single best predictor of entrepreneurial success, why investing is never a team sport and anyone who says otherwise is losing money, and why Bitcoin has a structural flaw that will permanently cap its ceiling. Chamath makes the case that Trump is the most effective political athlete America has ever seen, that some form of socialism is probably inevitable if we don't fix student debt and housing, and that his next obsession is building the machine that makes the machine — a software factory for the AI era.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 Introduction</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">06:09 Chamath’s Painful Childhood & Hunger</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">11:16 What Actually Matters Beyond Success</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">17:06 Business as a Game, Not Life</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">22:04 The Machine That Makes Machines</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">29:11 Trump, Trade & America’s Political Reset</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:30 Investing Lessons: Conviction Over Consensus</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">43:12 Bitcoin’s Structural Flaws & Limitations</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">49:56 The Conceptual Stack for AI Investing</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">55:12 AI Hype, Valuations & Catastrophising</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">58:26 Socialism’s Inevitable Rise & Boundary Fixes</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:03:48 Building Sovereign Social Media from India</span></p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter : <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn : <span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</span></li><li>Facebook : <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#chamathpalihapitiya</p><ul><li>LinkedIN : <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/chamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/chamath</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #chamath #chamathpalihapitiya #nvidia #software #ai #business #trump #podcast</p>]]></description>
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<title >Chamath Palihapitiya x Nikhil Kamath | Ep. 19 Trailer | People by WTF</title>
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<pubDate >Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Chamath Palihapitiya has made and lost billions. He backed Tesla, Bitcoin, and the Golden State Warriors when everyone told him he was insane. Now he's building what he calls a software factory — the machine that makes the machine. We talked about why pain is a prerequisite for scale, why socialism might be closer than any capitalist wants to admit, and why none of the metrics society uses to measure success actually mean anything. This was not a polished conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>Chamath Palihapitiya has made and lost billions. He backed Tesla, Bitcoin, and the Golden State Warriors when everyone told him he was insane. Now he's building what he calls a software factory — the machine that makes the machine. We talked about why pain is a prerequisite for scale, why socialism might be closer than any capitalist wants to admit, and why none of the metrics society uses to measure success actually mean anything. This was not a polished conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter : <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn : <span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</span></li><li>Facebook : <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#chamathpalihapitiya</p><ul><li>LinkedIN : <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/chamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/chamath</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #chamath #chamathpalihapitiya #nvidia #software #ai #business #trump #podcast</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Chamath Palihapitiya has made and lost billions. He backed Tesla, Bitcoin, and the Golden State Warriors when everyone told him he was insane. Now he's building what he calls a software factory — the machine that makes the machine. We talked about why pain is a prerequisite for scale, why socialism might be closer than any capitalist wants to admit, and why none of the metrics society uses to measure success actually mean anything. This was not a polished conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>Chamath Palihapitiya has made and lost billions. He backed Tesla, Bitcoin, and the Golden State Warriors when everyone told him he was insane. Now he's building what he calls a software factory — the machine that makes the machine. We talked about why pain is a prerequisite for scale, why socialism might be closer than any capitalist wants to admit, and why none of the metrics society uses to measure success actually mean anything. This was not a polished conversation.</p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter : <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn : <span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</span></li><li>Facebook : <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#chamathpalihapitiya</p><ul><li>LinkedIN : <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamath/</a></li><li>X - <a href="https://x.com/chamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/chamath</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #chamath #chamathpalihapitiya #nvidia #software #ai #business #trump #podcast</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate >Tue, 24 Feb 2026 13:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"> I sat down with Dario Amodei in Bangalore. He built Claude, but he started as a biologist looking for a tool to cure disease. Today, he's at the helm of an AI revolution that he compares to a tsunami society is actively ignoring. We got into the heavy stuff: why Anthropic secretly withheld a working model before ChatGPT existed, whether AI is on the verge of consciousness, and if outsourcing our thinking is going to make humans measurably stupider. Dario makes the case that coding is a dying skill, critical thinking is our last real edge, and the absurd concentration of power in AI right now is a massive problem—even though he’s one of the people holding it.</span></p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of “WTF is” and “People By WTF” Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#Darioamodei</p><ul><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/</a></li><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/DarioAmodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/DarioAmodei</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch “WTF is” Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch “People By WTF” Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch “WTF Online” on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #claude #claudeindia #podcast #anthropic #anthropicclaude #anthropicai #ai #aivideo #claude</p><p><br></p><p><strong style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">﻿Timestamps:</strong></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 Introduction</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">06:13 Scaling laws explained simply</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:27 Trust, humility, and corporate motives</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">22:44 Using Claude personally, AI knowing you</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">31:03 Rich people criticizing their own system</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:05 India's role and IT partnerships</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">44:15 Will AI surpass humans at everything</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">50:17 Career advice for young Indians</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">56:38 Open source vs closed AI models</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:02:40 Biotech as the next big bet</span></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"> I sat down with Dario Amodei in Bangalore. He built Claude, but he started as a biologist looking for a tool to cure disease. Today, he's at the helm of an AI revolution that he compares to a tsunami society is actively ignoring. We got into the heavy stuff: why Anthropic secretly withheld a working model before ChatGPT existed, whether AI is on the verge of consciousness, and if outsourcing our thinking is going to make humans measurably stupider. Dario makes the case that coding is a dying skill, critical thinking is our last real edge, and the absurd concentration of power in AI right now is a massive problem—even though he’s one of the people holding it.</span></p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of “WTF is” and “People By WTF” Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#Darioamodei</p><ul><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei/</a></li><li>X: <a href="https://x.com/DarioAmodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/DarioAmodei</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei/</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Watch “WTF is” Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch “People By WTF” Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch “WTF Online” on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #claude #claudeindia #podcast #anthropic #anthropicclaude #anthropicai #ai #aivideo #claude</p><p><br></p><p><strong style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">﻿Timestamps:</strong></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 Introduction</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">06:13 Scaling laws explained simply</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:27 Trust, humility, and corporate motives</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">22:44 Using Claude personally, AI knowing you</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">31:03 Rich people criticizing their own system</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:05 India's role and IT partnerships</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">44:15 Will AI surpass humans at everything</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">50:17 Career advice for young Indians</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">56:38 Open source vs closed AI models</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:02:40 Biotech as the next big bet</span></p>]]></description>
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<title >Dario Amodei: The Tsunami Nobody&apos;s Preparing For | Nikhil Kamath | Ep. 18 Trailer | People by WTF</title>
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<pubDate >Tue, 24 Feb 2026 07:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Dario Amodei runs a company valued at tens of billions of dollars, building the very AI systems he warns could reshape everything. So I asked him directly: isn't this a bit like rich people saying capitalism is bad? His answer surprised me. We went deep on the economics, the geopolitics, the safety debate, and why the people building AI might actually be the most paranoid about it. A long, honest, no-script conversation about the technology that's about to change all of our lives.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</span></p><ul><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilka." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilka.</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">..</span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@nikhilkamathcio  </a></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.c./" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.c.</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">..</span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@nikhilkamathcio  </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#Darioamodei</span></p><ul><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN- </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@dario-amodei</a></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">X - </span><a href="https://x.com/DarioAmodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/DarioAmodei</a></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram - </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@dario.amodei </a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"> </span></li></ul><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbjJYRTFTdkhqSXF4UlpZOW5Sd0hVZFFrb1BKd3xBQ3Jtc0tuY0JsNk1WdlVBUDU3bVRaeTF4cVJudkdTSDl5YW1Ialk3WFdvOU9qM3VUWm5kLUQ3enlLUzlTSDlTYUZjbTIzM1dmcl9FVXU0OEtiR003eWpXRFRLS0g5dm5zOTlMY1Y4UUctb0NLSk81aUFPNGNfYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4nsm4ezn&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4n.</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbjJYRTFTdkhqSXF4UlpZOW5Sd0hVZFFrb1BKd3xBQ3Jtc0tuY0JsNk1WdlVBUDU3bVRaeTF4cVJudkdTSDl5YW1Ialk3WFdvOU9qM3VUWm5kLUQ3enlLUzlTSDlTYUZjbTIzM1dmcl9FVXU0OEtiR003eWpXRFRLS0g5dm5zOTlMY1Y4UUctb0NLSk81aUFPNGNfYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4nsm4ezn&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">..</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0NmX21nY0ZZOW04SDF4TkVmRzVTX0VUN2RaZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsRDY0SEZmMXVzNDVnX2hfY1RGR0dNMmJpQ1lsZ1pDNlFJdkZKZDRXWDFvcjFCRmNObnZXMDdRMHh6MTgxV3R6ZURjb3ppcHQ4bXNfTHJjaTBEMDlpMGk3anR2TkV5NnlmZWd4UnBCZGJhREltTi1nZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyme92c59&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/ym.</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0NmX21nY0ZZOW04SDF4TkVmRzVTX0VUN2RaZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsRDY0SEZmMXVzNDVnX2hfY1RGR0dNMmJpQ1lsZ1pDNlFJdkZKZDRXWDFvcjFCRmNObnZXMDdRMHh6MTgxV3R6ZURjb3ppcHQ4bXNfTHJjaTBEMDlpMGk3anR2TkV5NnlmZWd4UnBCZGJhREltTi1nZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyme92c59&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">..</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHJSbUoza0plOFZGN3J1OHJhMURKVXBwcXJBZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsOUwzWmlGQWQ5akJySl94MEhHVU5Vd2RLTTUyVFZUQS11X3hYUTkybmlSZENRemx0aHA0SFBUMUNuZFhSeHF3UHhXcmZUWGpjRWQxUFhwd09LNkhOTFZwX2p6NnptT29UdldwcVRmVFZFQ1hRMlAwVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4tjua4th&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4t.</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHJSbUoza0plOFZGN3J1OHJhMURKVXBwcXJBZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsOUwzWmlGQWQ5akJySl94MEhHVU5Vd2RLTTUyVFZUQS11X3hYUTkybmlSZENRemx0aHA0SFBUMUNuZFhSeHF3UHhXcmZUWGpjRWQxUFhwd09LNkhOTFZwX2p6NnptT29UdldwcVRmVFZFQ1hRMlAwVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4tjua4th&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">..</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline #claude #claudeindia #podcast #anthropic #anthropicclaude #anthropicai #ai #aivideo #claude</span></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Dario Amodei runs a company valued at tens of billions of dollars, building the very AI systems he warns could reshape everything. So I asked him directly: isn't this a bit like rich people saying capitalism is bad? His answer surprised me. We went deep on the economics, the geopolitics, the safety debate, and why the people building AI might actually be the most paranoid about it. A long, honest, no-script conversation about the technology that's about to change all of our lives.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</span></p><ul><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilka." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilka.</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">..</span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@nikhilkamathcio  </a></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.c./" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.c.</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">..</span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@nikhilkamathcio  </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#Darioamodei</span></p><ul><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN- </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@dario-amodei</a></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">X - </span><a href="https://x.com/DarioAmodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/DarioAmodei</a></li><li><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram - </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/dario.amodei" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">@dario.amodei </a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 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<itunes:author >Nikhil Kamath</itunes:author>
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<title >Yuval Noah Harari: Stories, Power &amp; Why Truth Doesn&apos;t Matter | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>I sat down with Yuval Noah Harari at the World Economic Forum in Davos and we ended up covering everything from why Christianity's core story is essentially "you are loved by an omnipotent God" to why Greenland might just be the world's most expensive real estate play. He walked me through how algorithms were handed the job of managing public conversation and optimised for hate because hate drives engagement, how AI is about to become the new rabbi because it can read every religious text ever written, and why the friendship between Europe and America — built over generations — is being thrown away for a bit of ice. He also told me that the biggest political achievement in human history was governments spending more on healthcare than military for the first time — and that it's being deliberately destroyed.</p><p><br></p><p>Footage courtesy: WEF | CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 | Source:  • <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eq5mK2OrWw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Davos 2026 Highlights | World Economic For</a>...  [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0S048D2tj4&t=29s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">00:00:18 - 00:00:29</a>]</p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa01nSnFzblo3NEF6S3VMenNTNHZrVHVvekRGUXxBQ3Jtc0tsQWlBaExVOHB0Y2tkSkpqNWttMWNVY29VRU55Zk5CRFRvdmJFTmlDeWFpN3JFMVdUdmtnWTVScXhJS1V2cmhpZlhlNGVSeG0tZFVrZjNXV19WcUFMaDVJRW5GeER1OHh5UjFUNDZ0elNFUG9HZEFNUQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnhFeHF3Vm9pWUVtT0dWN2liNGdDZ2diN3d2Z3xBQ3Jtc0ttazROZUVpV2JVOGhoVzFpaG1IQjQzdUlPTWxyRS1qeWFKNGE3WS1NbnF1a0dSQS1PUDcxbFdiNjZTdUF6VjA4WjUwcm5mcUNvLXViNmhnR2tmRGtoTW5QVVhUdWVNS2ZqV0pOdW1JTzZjeEQ1ZW1HWQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> / nikhilkamathcio</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa21VY3l2MG4yTGhTQmNMQjBua2JJT3lJTDBaUXxBQ3Jtc0ttUmZOT1pZYUxDUHVsRlYwWkxpRHpOTEJpRDc2bDdXWHRVXzk2MGtEVTEwaEpWaEdnYnpkcXRYd3hWSkstWG9od2xpa2hTa2g3WG1STlJ0ZVg5Y2RfQ293bnVQd0hwQmtyenpLdi1ra0ZpaEtSRUwzZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio%3Futm_source%3Dshare%26utm_campaign%3Dshare_via%26utm_content%3Dprofile%26utm_medium%3Dios_app&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkam... </a></li><li>Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbk92Rlg3RnJPamotZ05wcVJhY29Ldl9PdU1XZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuNlc4VmIxYTN1Q0pFN2lxRXhNSXdwQVNIRXVXOUhpMVBaWUxIalVDUXRnbVFDSEt0NjF5dXRNMVU1MGZnX0JRcGctaTVPc1VSZ2dIdE44WEU1WHFVbGN0V0dXaXdiazNtOTl0bzNSOC1XQnNPczNvVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio  </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#YuvalNoahHarari @YuvalNoahHarari</p><ul><li>X - 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<description ><![CDATA[<p>I sat down with Yuval Noah Harari at the World Economic Forum in Davos and we ended up covering everything from why Christianity's core story is essentially "you are loved by an omnipotent God" to why Greenland might just be the world's most expensive real estate play. He walked me through how algorithms were handed the job of managing public conversation and optimised for hate because hate drives engagement, how AI is about to become the new rabbi because it can read every religious text ever written, and why the friendship between Europe and America — built over generations — is being thrown away for a bit of ice. He also told me that the biggest political achievement in human history was governments spending more on healthcare than military for the first time — and that it's being deliberately destroyed.</p><p><br></p><p>Footage courtesy: WEF | CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 | Source:  • <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eq5mK2OrWw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Davos 2026 Highlights | World Economic For</a>...  [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0S048D2tj4&t=29s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">00:00:18 - 00:00:29</a>]</p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa01nSnFzblo3NEF6S3VMenNTNHZrVHVvekRGUXxBQ3Jtc0tsQWlBaExVOHB0Y2tkSkpqNWttMWNVY29VRU55Zk5CRFRvdmJFTmlDeWFpN3JFMVdUdmtnWTVScXhJS1V2cmhpZlhlNGVSeG0tZFVrZjNXV19WcUFMaDVJRW5GeER1OHh5UjFUNDZ0elNFUG9HZEFNUQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnhFeHF3Vm9pWUVtT0dWN2liNGdDZ2diN3d2Z3xBQ3Jtc0ttazROZUVpV2JVOGhoVzFpaG1IQjQzdUlPTWxyRS1qeWFKNGE3WS1NbnF1a0dSQS1PUDcxbFdiNjZTdUF6VjA4WjUwcm5mcUNvLXViNmhnR2tmRGtoTW5QVVhUdWVNS2ZqV0pOdW1JTzZjeEQ1ZW1HWQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> / nikhilkamathcio</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa21VY3l2MG4yTGhTQmNMQjBua2JJT3lJTDBaUXxBQ3Jtc0ttUmZOT1pZYUxDUHVsRlYwWkxpRHpOTEJpRDc2bDdXWHRVXzk2MGtEVTEwaEpWaEdnYnpkcXRYd3hWSkstWG9od2xpa2hTa2g3WG1STlJ0ZVg5Y2RfQ293bnVQd0hwQmtyenpLdi1ra0ZpaEtSRUwzZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio%3Futm_source%3Dshare%26utm_campaign%3Dshare_via%26utm_content%3Dprofile%26utm_medium%3Dios_app&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkam... </a></li><li>Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbk92Rlg3RnJPamotZ05wcVJhY29Ldl9PdU1XZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuNlc4VmIxYTN1Q0pFN2lxRXhNSXdwQVNIRXVXOUhpMVBaWUxIalVDUXRnbVFDSEt0NjF5dXRNMVU1MGZnX0JRcGctaTVPc1VSZ2dIdE44WEU1WHFVbGN0V0dXaXdiazNtOTl0bzNSOC1XQnNPczNvVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=N0S048D2tj4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio  </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#YuvalNoahHarari @YuvalNoahHarari</p><ul><li>X - 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<title >Yuval Noah Harari x Nikhil Kamath | Ep. 17 Trailer | People by WTF</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Is religion dying, or is it just being replaced by AI? We are living through a dramatic geopolitical shift. The rules we grew up with are being rewritten. I sat down with historian and author Yuval Noah Harari at the World Economic Forum to understand if we are witnessing the end of an era or the beginning of something entirely new. From the "madness" of the US-Europe split to the private conversations between Putin and Xi that nobody talks about, this conversation connects the dots.</p><p><br></p><p>Footage courtesy: WEF | CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 |</p><p>Source:  • <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eq5mK2OrWw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Davos 2026 Highlights</a> | World Economic For...  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bsuHts3vUA&t=12s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">[00:00:00 - 00:00:12</a>] [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bsuHts3vUA&t=69s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">00:01:09 - 00:01:17</a>]</p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmZJRFc3aklLSXVRaVo3MGhWT242SUU4SHNpZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsR05ZZ3RkZDBnTW1QdlFGSVNaX2REUDdYOElIdWUydXVDb1luTFR0V2d2RDRmN0djMU52UU9pMjE0T1dBMlJISENaTEFQOU05M19FcmE1VTNRcXIybktLZVExY1Q1aVVkYXNnelBmYkk3aEN5TkhFNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </a></li><li>Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmwtbTVXeklGZjlBU2lqYUs2NHBkZnR4WWJZUXxBQ3Jtc0ttYldzZHFJSW5pYS1IWW84SmYxOVY5dE5Jdm42YVVvUTBka0hWRC1pTDRaUTliRktqMUdGeDVLVUdrYm5tLUdkMnBTVmhrS25fWWtuUHhzdzZFVTZwTVRobUpCT0ozQTVrV01BM3dZT2NaN19fM1ZMOA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio  </a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1luR2R0akN4cnRYS1lPSDlseUZpOTFqVXVpd3xBQ3Jtc0trcGs1R0dFcTRZeHk1LTdDTGZzZVd5UTlQdmFWMVNZU2NLLVBhMEFaalhQR3gyLTRDQXBfQW5aYjFWQkd5ZHlqYVpKR3dYRmhWemhLY1FzS0VCRjQxc21SOXh4cWt0U3A3d2IzbVctalVmdS1hSE96WQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio%3Futm_source%3Dshare%26utm_campaign%3Dshare_via%26utm_content%3Dprofile%26utm_medium%3Dios_app&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkam... </a></li><li>Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1FtYVpjUkd5cG9rcG8wZ2lDbEdZTWJDSTZTUXxBQ3Jtc0trVlRFdjhjeWM0RWhld0NWS25VaVhmWWJnQzdXV25ONXdvak1SaEw0bDdlQS1YeGJfYThOVzlpV3E2ajNrZGVral9FN21KdU9VVFpYZFVMWmhQRFlESXo4MTQtQlRYUkh0Z2ZKVTg0bEt3VjJnVWdGYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio  </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#YuvalNoahHarari @YuvalNoahHarari</p><ul><li>X - 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<description ><![CDATA[<p>Is religion dying, or is it just being replaced by AI? We are living through a dramatic geopolitical shift. The rules we grew up with are being rewritten. I sat down with historian and author Yuval Noah Harari at the World Economic Forum to understand if we are witnessing the end of an era or the beginning of something entirely new. From the "madness" of the US-Europe split to the private conversations between Putin and Xi that nobody talks about, this conversation connects the dots.</p><p><br></p><p>Footage courtesy: WEF | CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 |</p><p>Source:  • <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eq5mK2OrWw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Davos 2026 Highlights</a> | World Economic For...  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bsuHts3vUA&t=12s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">[00:00:00 - 00:00:12</a>] [<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bsuHts3vUA&t=69s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">00:01:09 - 00:01:17</a>]</p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><ul><li>X: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmZJRFc3aklLSXVRaVo3MGhWT242SUU4SHNpZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsR05ZZ3RkZDBnTW1QdlFGSVNaX2REUDdYOElIdWUydXVDb1luTFR0V2d2RDRmN0djMU52UU9pMjE0T1dBMlJISENaTEFQOU05M19FcmE1VTNRcXIybktLZVExY1Q1aVVkYXNnelBmYkk3aEN5TkhFNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </a></li><li>Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbmwtbTVXeklGZjlBU2lqYUs2NHBkZnR4WWJZUXxBQ3Jtc0ttYldzZHFJSW5pYS1IWW84SmYxOVY5dE5Jdm42YVVvUTBka0hWRC1pTDRaUTliRktqMUdGeDVLVUdrYm5tLUdkMnBTVmhrS25fWWtuUHhzdzZFVTZwTVRobUpCT0ozQTVrV01BM3dZT2NaN19fM1ZMOA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio  </a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1luR2R0akN4cnRYS1lPSDlseUZpOTFqVXVpd3xBQ3Jtc0trcGs1R0dFcTRZeHk1LTdDTGZzZVd5UTlQdmFWMVNZU2NLLVBhMEFaalhQR3gyLTRDQXBfQW5aYjFWQkd5ZHlqYVpKR3dYRmhWemhLY1FzS0VCRjQxc21SOXh4cWt0U3A3d2IzbVctalVmdS1hSE96WQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio%3Futm_source%3Dshare%26utm_campaign%3Dshare_via%26utm_content%3Dprofile%26utm_medium%3Dios_app&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkam... </a></li><li>Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1FtYVpjUkd5cG9rcG8wZ2lDbEdZTWJDSTZTUXxBQ3Jtc0trVlRFdjhjeWM0RWhld0NWS25VaVhmWWJnQzdXV25ONXdvak1SaEw0bDdlQS1YeGJfYThOVzlpV3E2ajNrZGVral9FN21KdU9VVFpYZFVMWmhQRFlESXo4MTQtQlRYUkh0Z2ZKVTg0bEt3VjJnVWdGYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=3bsuHts3vUA" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio  </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>#YuvalNoahHarari @YuvalNoahHarari</p><ul><li>X - 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<title >Elon Musk: एक अलग बातचीत Nikhil Kamath के साथ | पूरा एपिसोड | People by WTF Ep. 16</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><strong>Elon Musk × Nikhil Kamath — अब हिन्दी में।</strong></p><p>आपकी रिक्वेस्ट पर, हमने पूरा एपिसोड हिन्दी में डब किया है ताकि यह बातचीत और भी लोगों तक पहुंच सके।</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps :</p><p>00:00 – Settling in</p><p>02:08 – On X, text vs video, how people communicate</p><p>06:45 – Collective consciousness</p><p>09:54 – Meaning of life, Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy</p><p>14:16 – Individuals vs collectives</p><p>17:35 – What makes a company worth investing in</p><p>20:00 – Work Elon is most excited about across Tesla, SpaceX and xAI</p><p>23:35 – Starlink explained simply</p><p>29:45 – UHI, and “Working will be optional”: what that means</p><p>34:35 – Marshmallow test & delayed gratification</p><p>36:13 – The letter X</p><p>42:15 – Money, energy and the far future</p><p>46:13 – AI, US debt & what productivity unlocks</p><p>51:07 – Matrix, Simulation theory & probabilities</p><p>56:30 – Morality, religion & GTA</p><p>1:01:25 – Elon’s version of the simulation </p><p>1:03:17 – Elon’s Kids, Family structure & Nature vs. Nurture</p><p>1:12:33 – Should kids still go to college?</p><p>1:14:52 – How to regulate AI</p><p>1:20:08 – Language, history, and what remains timeless</p><p>1:23:22 — Movies vs podcasts</p><p>1:24:33 — Can AI understand human nuance?</p><p>1:26:01 — Where would Elon invest?</p><p>1:27:52 —David vs Goliath</p><p>1:30:03 — Humour, Friendship & Politics</p><p>1:37:00 — Politics, influence, and business</p><p>1:38:53 — Global trade, tariffs, Free markets</p><p>1:41:11 — The relationship between business and government</p><p>1:43:21 — DOGE </p><p>1:46:47 — Philanthropy</p><p>1:47:39 — H1B & Immigration Laws</p><p>1:51:17 — Advice for people building</p><p>1:52:00 — Value creation and hard work</p><p>1:53:26 — Closing thoughts & gratitude</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Entrepreneur & Investor</p><p><br></p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast </p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a>  </p><p>Instagram:  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#elonmusk </p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/elonmusk</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify </p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify </p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify </p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath  #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><strong>Elon Musk × Nikhil Kamath — अब हिन्दी में।</strong></p><p>आपकी रिक्वेस्ट पर, हमने पूरा एपिसोड हिन्दी में डब किया है ताकि यह बातचीत और भी लोगों तक पहुंच सके।</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps :</p><p>00:00 – Settling in</p><p>02:08 – On X, text vs video, how people communicate</p><p>06:45 – Collective consciousness</p><p>09:54 – Meaning of life, Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy</p><p>14:16 – Individuals vs collectives</p><p>17:35 – What makes a company worth investing in</p><p>20:00 – Work Elon is most excited about across Tesla, SpaceX and xAI</p><p>23:35 – Starlink explained simply</p><p>29:45 – UHI, and “Working will be optional”: what that means</p><p>34:35 – Marshmallow test & delayed gratification</p><p>36:13 – The letter X</p><p>42:15 – Money, energy and the far future</p><p>46:13 – AI, US debt & what productivity unlocks</p><p>51:07 – Matrix, Simulation theory & probabilities</p><p>56:30 – Morality, religion & GTA</p><p>1:01:25 – Elon’s version of the simulation </p><p>1:03:17 – Elon’s Kids, Family structure & Nature vs. Nurture</p><p>1:12:33 – Should kids still go to college?</p><p>1:14:52 – How to regulate AI</p><p>1:20:08 – Language, history, and what remains timeless</p><p>1:23:22 — Movies vs podcasts</p><p>1:24:33 — Can AI understand human nuance?</p><p>1:26:01 — Where would Elon invest?</p><p>1:27:52 —David vs Goliath</p><p>1:30:03 — Humour, Friendship & Politics</p><p>1:37:00 — Politics, influence, and business</p><p>1:38:53 — Global trade, tariffs, Free markets</p><p>1:41:11 — The relationship between business and government</p><p>1:43:21 — DOGE </p><p>1:46:47 — Philanthropy</p><p>1:47:39 — H1B & Immigration Laws</p><p>1:51:17 — Advice for people building</p><p>1:52:00 — Value creation and hard work</p><p>1:53:26 — Closing thoughts & gratitude</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Entrepreneur & Investor</p><p><br></p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast </p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a>  </p><p>Instagram:  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#elonmusk </p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/elonmusk</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify </p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify </p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify </p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath  #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Elon Musk: A Different Conversation | Full Episode | People by WTF Ep. 16</title>
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<pubDate >Sun, 30 Nov 2025 13:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>A long conversation with #ElonMusk about work, consciousness, family, money, AI and how the future might unfold. No script, no performance, just two people thinking out loud. A big thank you to Manoj Ladwa - a close friend of many years and a remarkable connector of India to the world and the world to India. Through India Global Forum, he has built one of the most influential platforms showcasing India’s rise. As I’ve said before, this is India’s decade, and leaders like @ManojLadwa and India Global Forum will be the flag bearers in making that a reality.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamp:</p><p>00:00 – Settling in & the first few minutes of conversation</p><p>02:00 – On X, text vs video, how people communicate</p><p>05:00 – Free speech, balance and how platforms shape thought</p><p>07:30 – Collective consciousness & translation across languages</p><p>10:30 – Meaning of life, Hitchhiker’s Guide & asking the right questions</p><p>13:30 – Individuals vs collectives</p><p>16:00 – How progress happens and why teams matter</p><p>18:30 – What makes a company worth investing in</p><p>20:00 – Work Elon is most excited about across Tesla, SpaceX and xAI</p><p>22:00 – Self-driving, real-world AI and Optimus</p><p>23:30 – Starlink explained simply</p><p>27:00 – Cities, rural life and how AI may change where we live</p><p>30:00 – “Working will be optional”: what that means</p><p>33:00 – UHI, deflation and the next 20 years36:00 – Marshmallow test & delayed gratification</p><p>38:00 – On kids, family and time</p><p>40:00 – The letter X</p><p>42:00 – Money, energy and the far future</p><p>47:00 – AI, debt & what productivity unlocks</p><p>50:00 – Simulation theory & probabilities</p><p>55:00 – Morality, religion & what makes societies stable</p><p>59:00 – Family structure & the future of population</p><p>1:03:00 – Nature, nurture & potential</p><p>1:07:00 – Should kids still go to college?</p><p>1:11:00 – Truth, beauty, curiosity in AI</p><p>1:18:00 – Podcasts, content, and how stories are changing</p><p>1:23:00 – Language, history, and what remains timeless</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Entrepreneur & Investor Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast </p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a> </p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </p><p><br></p><p>#elonmusk </p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/elonmusk</a> </p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a> </p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a> </p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a> </p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>A long conversation with #ElonMusk about work, consciousness, family, money, AI and how the future might unfold. No script, no performance, just two people thinking out loud. A big thank you to Manoj Ladwa - a close friend of many years and a remarkable connector of India to the world and the world to India. Through India Global Forum, he has built one of the most influential platforms showcasing India’s rise. As I’ve said before, this is India’s decade, and leaders like @ManojLadwa and India Global Forum will be the flag bearers in making that a reality.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamp:</p><p>00:00 – Settling in & the first few minutes of conversation</p><p>02:00 – On X, text vs video, how people communicate</p><p>05:00 – Free speech, balance and how platforms shape thought</p><p>07:30 – Collective consciousness & translation across languages</p><p>10:30 – Meaning of life, Hitchhiker’s Guide & asking the right questions</p><p>13:30 – Individuals vs collectives</p><p>16:00 – How progress happens and why teams matter</p><p>18:30 – What makes a company worth investing in</p><p>20:00 – Work Elon is most excited about across Tesla, SpaceX and xAI</p><p>22:00 – Self-driving, real-world AI and Optimus</p><p>23:30 – Starlink explained simply</p><p>27:00 – Cities, rural life and how AI may change where we live</p><p>30:00 – “Working will be optional”: what that means</p><p>33:00 – UHI, deflation and the next 20 years36:00 – Marshmallow test & delayed gratification</p><p>38:00 – On kids, family and time</p><p>40:00 – The letter X</p><p>42:00 – Money, energy and the far future</p><p>47:00 – AI, debt & what productivity unlocks</p><p>50:00 – Simulation theory & probabilities</p><p>55:00 – Morality, religion & what makes societies stable</p><p>59:00 – Family structure & the future of population</p><p>1:03:00 – Nature, nurture & potential</p><p>1:07:00 – Should kids still go to college?</p><p>1:11:00 – Truth, beauty, curiosity in AI</p><p>1:18:00 – Podcasts, content, and how stories are changing</p><p>1:23:00 – Language, history, and what remains timeless</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Entrepreneur & Investor Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast </p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a> </p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a> </p><p><br></p><p>#elonmusk </p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/elonmusk</a> </p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a> </p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a> </p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a> </p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Elon Musk x Nikhil Kamath | Ep. 16 Trailer | People by WTF</title>
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<pubDate >Sun, 30 Nov 2025 05:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Here’s to delaying gratification. The future belongs to the patient. </p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Entrepreneur & Investor Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #elonmusk</a></p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/elonmusk</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Here’s to delaying gratification. The future belongs to the patient. </p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Entrepreneur & Investor Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #elonmusk</a></p><p>X - <a href="https://x.com/elonmusk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/elonmusk</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >A.R. Rahman: The Genius Who Took Indian Music Global | Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF | Ep 15</title>
<link >https://listen.hubhopper.com/episode/ar-rahman-the-genius-who-took-indian-music-global-nikhil-kamath-people-by-wtf-ep-15/32955403</link>
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<pubDate >Fri, 21 Nov 2025 15:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">What struck me most in this conversation with AR Rahman was not his mastery but his humility. He talks openly about fear, self-doubt, imposter syndrome, and why he constantly leaves comfort to evolve.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">We got into everything, Bombay Dreams, London, Hollywood, Oscars, classical music’s future, AI composition, spiritual surrender, and why consistency matters more than lifestyle.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">If you’ve ever wondered how someone stays grounded while being celebrated globally, you should watch this!</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Timestamps:</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 – Early Life, Bangalore–Chennai Roots</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">03:17 – Childhood Trauma, Losing His Father & Growing Up in Studios</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">08:25 – Mother’s Strength, Family Survival & Entering Music Young</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">10:30 – Playing for Composers, Jingles & Early Experiments</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:30 – Building Panchathan Studio & Mani Ratnam Discovery</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">24:00 – The 90s Trend Change & Redefining Indian Music</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">26:36 – Classical Music, Gurus & The Spiritual Side of Art</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">31:00 – AI, Contrarian Thinking & Beating Predictive Models</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">34:29 – Talent, Practice, Singing & Evolving at Any Age</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">40:00 – Global Work: UN, KM Conservatory & Purpose-Driven Projects</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">43:18 – Fame, Privacy & The Price of Being Recognised</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">47:15 – Creativity, Tech & DM Collaborations</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">53:33 – Live Experiences, Theatre & Reinventing Entertainment</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">56:15 – Meta Glasses & His Passion Project</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:14:12 –His Personal Headspace, Altruism & Religious Beliefs</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:29:40 – Tu Hi Re: The Making, History & Magic Behind the Song</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:35:40 – The Future of Cinema: Immersive Screens, Haptics & Sound</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:43:54 – Final Thoughts: India, Scale, News & What’s On His Mind</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"> #nikhilkamath : Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">  </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#arrahman : Indian musical composer and record producer</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter - </span><a href="https://x.com/arrahman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/arrahman</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram - </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/arrahman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/arrahman/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook - </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/arrahman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/arrahman/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Threads - </span><a href="https://www.threads.com/@arrahman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.threads.com/@arrahman</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">What struck me most in this conversation with AR Rahman was not his mastery but his humility. He talks openly about fear, self-doubt, imposter syndrome, and why he constantly leaves comfort to evolve.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">We got into everything, Bombay Dreams, London, Hollywood, Oscars, classical music’s future, AI composition, spiritual surrender, and why consistency matters more than lifestyle.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">If you’ve ever wondered how someone stays grounded while being celebrated globally, you should watch this!</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Timestamps:</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 – Early Life, Bangalore–Chennai Roots</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">03:17 – Childhood Trauma, Losing His Father & Growing Up in Studios</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">08:25 – Mother’s Strength, Family Survival & Entering Music Young</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">10:30 – Playing for Composers, Jingles & Early Experiments</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:30 – Building Panchathan Studio & Mani Ratnam Discovery</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">24:00 – The 90s Trend Change & Redefining Indian Music</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">26:36 – Classical Music, Gurus & The Spiritual Side of Art</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">31:00 – AI, Contrarian Thinking & Beating Predictive Models</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">34:29 – Talent, Practice, Singing & Evolving at Any Age</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">40:00 – Global Work: UN, KM Conservatory & Purpose-Driven Projects</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">43:18 – Fame, Privacy & The Price of Being Recognised</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">47:15 – Creativity, Tech & DM Collaborations</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">53:33 – Live Experiences, Theatre & Reinventing Entertainment</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">56:15 – Meta Glasses & His Passion Project</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:14:12 –His Personal Headspace, Altruism & Religious Beliefs</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:29:40 – Tu Hi Re: The Making, History & Magic Behind the Song</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:35:40 – The Future of Cinema: Immersive Screens, Haptics & Sound</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:43:54 – Final Thoughts: India, Scale, News & What’s On His Mind</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);"> #nikhilkamath : Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">  </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#arrahman : Indian musical composer and record producer</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter - </span><a href="https://x.com/arrahman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/arrahman</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram - </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/arrahman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/arrahman/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook - </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/arrahman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/arrahman/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Threads - </span><a href="https://www.threads.com/@arrahman" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.threads.com/@arrahman</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></description>
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<title >From Iran to Uber CEO | Nikhil Kamath x Dara Khosrowshahi | People by WTF | Ep. 14</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Building the next Uber in India? Dara shares lessons on competition, EVs, quick commerce, and how he helped build Uber through chaos.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:22 - Dara’s visits to India</p><p>01:58 - Uber’s Indian competitors</p><p>04:42 - Growing up in Iran</p><p>10:47 - Dara on religion & spirituality</p><p>16:40 - From Iran to US</p><p>19:54 - Key lesson from Barry Diller</p><p>28:05 - How AI can reinvent travel</p><p>32:12 - Dara’s vision for fixing travel</p><p>34:50 - Decoding taste from data</p><p>36:48 - What Uber really represents</p><p>38:48 - Selling Uber Eats to Zomato</p><p>42:10 - Opportunities in mobility, delivery & quick commerce</p><p>44:32 - Authenticity & collaboration</p><p>49:26 - David vs. Goliath: Uber’s image strategy</p><p>53:29 - Team rivalry: strategy or risk?</p><p>55:59 - DoorDash vs. Uber</p><p>57:24 - Why India matters to Uber</p><p>58:31 - Opportunity vs. TAM</p><p>1:01:50 - Why quick commerce hasn’t taken off in the US</p><p>1:05:15 - Autonomous vehicles vs. drivers</p><p>1:10:02 - AVs & Indian roads</p><p>1:12:39 - Data challenges</p><p>1:13:29 - Cooking automation & the future of dining</p><p>1:17:36 - Building brands without ads</p><p>1:20:27 - Labour costs & immigration policies</p><p>1:21:03 - China’s incredible EVs</p><p>1:24:51 - The EV slowdown</p><p>1:26:48 - Will Uber become a super app?</p><p>1:29:39 - What would Dara build today?</p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: [</span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a><span style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">] (</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g</a><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio%5D(https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">)</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: [](</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g</a><span style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">) </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#DaraKhosrowshahi -</p><p>CEO, Uber Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/dkhos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/dkhos</a> LinkedIN: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dara-khosrowshahi-70949862/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dara-khosrowshahi-70949862/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Building the next Uber in India? Dara shares lessons on competition, EVs, quick commerce, and how he helped build Uber through chaos.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:22 - Dara’s visits to India</p><p>01:58 - Uber’s Indian competitors</p><p>04:42 - Growing up in Iran</p><p>10:47 - Dara on religion & spirituality</p><p>16:40 - From Iran to US</p><p>19:54 - Key lesson from Barry Diller</p><p>28:05 - How AI can reinvent travel</p><p>32:12 - Dara’s vision for fixing travel</p><p>34:50 - Decoding taste from data</p><p>36:48 - What Uber really represents</p><p>38:48 - Selling Uber Eats to Zomato</p><p>42:10 - Opportunities in mobility, delivery & quick commerce</p><p>44:32 - Authenticity & collaboration</p><p>49:26 - David vs. Goliath: Uber’s image strategy</p><p>53:29 - Team rivalry: strategy or risk?</p><p>55:59 - DoorDash vs. Uber</p><p>57:24 - Why India matters to Uber</p><p>58:31 - Opportunity vs. TAM</p><p>1:01:50 - Why quick commerce hasn’t taken off in the US</p><p>1:05:15 - Autonomous vehicles vs. drivers</p><p>1:10:02 - AVs & Indian roads</p><p>1:12:39 - Data challenges</p><p>1:13:29 - Cooking automation & the future of dining</p><p>1:17:36 - Building brands without ads</p><p>1:20:27 - Labour costs & immigration policies</p><p>1:21:03 - China’s incredible EVs</p><p>1:24:51 - The EV slowdown</p><p>1:26:48 - Will Uber become a super app?</p><p>1:29:39 - What would Dara build today?</p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: [</span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a><span style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">] (</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g</a><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio%5D(https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">)</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: [](</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g</a><span style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">) </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#DaraKhosrowshahi -</p><p>CEO, Uber Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/dkhos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/dkhos</a> LinkedIN: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dara-khosrowshahi-70949862/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dara-khosrowshahi-70949862/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Sam Altman x Nikhil Kamath: How to Win When AI Changes Everything | People by WTF | Episode 13</title>
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<pubDate >Thu, 14 Aug 2025 12:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">I finally sat down with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, to discuss the launch of GPT-5, its differences, whether we’re inching closer to agent-like AI, what it takes to build a future that’s moving at breakneck speed.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 - Intro</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">01:13 - What’s New in GPT-5?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">02:54 - Sam on First Principles, Careers & Future Industries</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">05:47 - What’s Possible with GPT-5</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">07:09 - Building on GPT-5: Skills & Science Applications</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">10:28 - Mastering Today’s AI Tools</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">11:37 - Sam’s Self-Perception & Edge at 19</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:42 - Is Humility Still an Advantage?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">18:51 - Parenthood & Why He Chose It</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">21:19 - How Marriage, Religion & Kids Will Evolve</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">22:20 - Capitalism, Democracy & The Odds of Socialism</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">25:44 - Does AGI Make Capital Obsolete?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">28:25 - Marginal Utility & the Fate of Wrappers</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">34:15 - Is Contrarian Thinking an Edge?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:33 - AGI vs. Human Intelligence</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">38:56 - The Future of Robotics</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">40:55 - Where the Form Factor is Headed</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">42:54 - Climate Change & AI in India</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: [</span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio%5D(https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: [](</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#SamAltman - CEO, OpenAI</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/sama" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/sama</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/samhaltman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/samhaltman/</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">I finally sat down with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, to discuss the launch of GPT-5, its differences, whether we’re inching closer to agent-like AI, what it takes to build a future that’s moving at breakneck speed.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 - Intro</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">01:13 - What’s New in GPT-5?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">02:54 - Sam on First Principles, Careers & Future Industries</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">05:47 - What’s Possible with GPT-5</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">07:09 - Building on GPT-5: Skills & Science Applications</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">10:28 - Mastering Today’s AI Tools</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">11:37 - Sam’s Self-Perception & Edge at 19</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:42 - Is Humility Still an Advantage?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">18:51 - Parenthood & Why He Chose It</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">21:19 - How Marriage, Religion & Kids Will Evolve</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">22:20 - Capitalism, Democracy & The Odds of Socialism</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">25:44 - Does AGI Make Capital Obsolete?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">28:25 - Marginal Utility & the Fate of Wrappers</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">34:15 - Is Contrarian Thinking an Edge?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:33 - AGI vs. Human Intelligence</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">38:56 - The Future of Robotics</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">40:55 - Where the Form Factor is Headed</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">42:54 - Climate Change & AI in India</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: [</span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio%5D(https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm9WZVh3cHVTX3JEeGptVjlOZ1R3cW5rVkZJUXxBQ3Jtc0tuekFjWnRXME9XUUVLcDNCTk9YcHd5OU1MV1NMamE0cWE1T25meGJ4VWRMa21OY3VYLWM2T05iOUJtYTNWbWRSLW5YUXNzTTRHUUpjOGdZSGJzNEYxMkt2Y2hmWVNUeU51Nk5MRFVieVNtSTJwMkFXZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: [](</span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGNsNjlxS2NyU3VxOUNIQU1VUmczaWNobmtJd3xBQ3Jtc0tsVmczaDdwdkpMZWlNaVdISk1mQUFfbmhZNVB2al9OU1hwbF9rYTFoMFJGN2FKRnFreXFEaXZhRGttd2xLRHBpQVhIS19XaW5wQTZ3UjB6bm5vazVmdUkwSEdsU0MxS1lXYmJvVnhlekVRczc0RmdTRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=wHQiewz8k9g)https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: </span><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#SamAltman - CEO, OpenAI</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/sama" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/sama</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/samhaltman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.facebook.com/samhaltman/</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></description>
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<title >Is this Real, AI, or Cake?</title>
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<pubDate >Wed, 13 Aug 2025 09:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></description>
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<itunes:duration >59</itunes:duration>
<author >originals@hubhopper.com</author>
<itunes:author >Nikhil Kamath</itunes:author>
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<title >Vinod Khosla: College Degrees Are Becoming Useless | People by WTF | Episode 12</title>
<link >https://listen.hubhopper.com/episode/vinod-khosla-college-degrees-are-becoming-useless-people-by-wtf-episode-12/32923121</link>
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<pubDate >Sat, 02 Aug 2025 08:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">When I was starting out, this is the kind of conversation I wish I had access to. I sat down with Vinod Khosla, one of the sharpest minds in venture, and asked him the questions every young founder has on their mind.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">What industries will matter in 2035? Should you build for cities, small towns, or somewhere no one’s looking yet?</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Also listeners! Just a heads up that we recorded this episode on July 7, 2025, so some details might have changed since then.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#VinodKhosla - Co-founder, Sun Microsystems & Founder, Khosla Ventures</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/vkhosla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/vkhosla</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: / vinod-khosla-65387416  </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Timestamps:</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 - Intro</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">01:10 - Vinod’s Early Life & Tech Fascination</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">04:43 - What Part of Vinod’s Education Shaped Him Most?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">06:17 - Why Certainty is Overrated</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">09:46 - Investor Mindsets: Skeptic vs Contrarian</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:36 - Identity, Purpose & Persistence</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">19:47 - What Still Drives Vinod at 70?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">27:15 - Why Cities Need Fewer Cars</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">30:20 - AI: Bad For Big Cities & Good For Small Towns?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">32:19 - Vinod’s Best Advice to Young Founders</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:55 - Generalist or Specialist: What’s Better?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">43:03 - Post AI World: Free Education & Healthcare?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">48:40 - Will AI Make A Free Stanford Education Possible?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">55:03 - A Deflated Economy in an AI World</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:00:53 - Why Strategic Entrepreneurs Win</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:05:44 - Speculation vs Adaptation: What Helps You Win?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:08:25 - Will All Mobility Be Electric?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:10:09 - Why Passion Matters More Than People Think</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:13:02 - Are We in an AI Bubble?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:16:48 - What Blockchain is Really Good At</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:20:35 - Will India’s IT Sector Survive the AI Shift?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:21:51 - Outro</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">When I was starting out, this is the kind of conversation I wish I had access to. I sat down with Vinod Khosla, one of the sharpest minds in venture, and asked him the questions every young founder has on their mind.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">What industries will matter in 2035? Should you build for cities, small towns, or somewhere no one’s looking yet?</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Also listeners! Just a heads up that we recorded this episode on July 7, 2025, so some details might have changed since then.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#VinodKhosla - Co-founder, Sun Microsystems & Founder, Khosla Ventures</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/vkhosla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/vkhosla</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: / vinod-khosla-65387416  </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Timestamps:</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">00:00 - Intro</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">01:10 - Vinod’s Early Life & Tech Fascination</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">04:43 - What Part of Vinod’s Education Shaped Him Most?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">06:17 - Why Certainty is Overrated</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">09:46 - Investor Mindsets: Skeptic vs Contrarian</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">13:36 - Identity, Purpose & Persistence</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">19:47 - What Still Drives Vinod at 70?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">27:15 - Why Cities Need Fewer Cars</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">30:20 - AI: Bad For Big Cities & Good For Small Towns?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">32:19 - Vinod’s Best Advice to Young Founders</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">37:55 - Generalist or Specialist: What’s Better?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">43:03 - Post AI World: Free Education & Healthcare?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">48:40 - Will AI Make A Free Stanford Education Possible?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">55:03 - A Deflated Economy in an AI World</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:00:53 - Why Strategic Entrepreneurs Win</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:05:44 - Speculation vs Adaptation: What Helps You Win?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:08:25 - Will All Mobility Be Electric?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:10:09 - Why Passion Matters More Than People Think</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:13:02 - Are We in an AI Bubble?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:16:48 - What Blockchain is Really Good At</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:20:35 - Will India’s IT Sector Survive the AI Shift?</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">1:21:51 - Outro</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x Vinod Khosla, Iconic Silicon Valley VC | People by WTF | Ep. 12 Trailer</title>
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<pubDate >Sat, 02 Aug 2025 08:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">In this upcoming episode, I sat down with Vinod Khosla, Sun Microsystems Co-founder and Founder of Khosla Ventures to find out where tomorrow’s big bets lie and why contrarian thinking still pays off.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#VinodKhosla - Co-founder, Sun Microsystems & Founder, Khosla Ventures</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/vkhosla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/vkhosla</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: / vinod-khosla-65387416  </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">In this upcoming episode, I sat down with Vinod Khosla, Sun Microsystems Co-founder and Founder of Khosla Ventures to find out where tomorrow’s big bets lie and why contrarian thinking still pays off.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIn: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Instagram: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Facebook: / nikhilkamathcio </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#VinodKhosla - Co-founder, Sun Microsystems & Founder, Khosla Ventures</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Twitter: </span><a href="https://x.com/vkhosla" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://x.com/vkhosla</a></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">LinkedIN: / vinod-khosla-65387416  </span></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</span></p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</span></p>]]></description>
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<itunes:author >Nikhil Kamath</itunes:author>
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<title >From Ghaziabad to Silicon Valley: Nikhil Kamath x Nikesh Arora | People by WTF | Ep. 11</title>
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<pubDate >Mon, 30 Jun 2025 05:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Here’s one of my favourite conversations with Palo Alto Networks’ CEO, Nikesh Arora. This episode is a CxO’s playbook where we deep dived into the mindset, strategy, and decision-making frameworks that have shaped Nikesh’s journey across roles at Google, SoftBank, and now leading one of the world’s top cybersecurity firms. This isn’t just business talk. Learn how to think like a CxO when the rules of the game keep changing.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#NikeshArora - CEO, Palo Alto Networks</p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikesharora" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikesharora</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikesh-arora-02894670/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikesh-arora-02894670/</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p><br></p><p>Chapter 1: Action vs Inaction</p><p>01:51 - Nikesh’s Early Years</p><p>04:17 - The Real Threats in Cybersecurity</p><p>08:13 - What Will Outlast the Disruptions?</p><p><br></p><p>Chapter 2: Can We Ever Be Safe Again?</p><p>10:31 - Rethinking Safety in a Changing World</p><p>12:44 - How to Look at the Cybersecurity Landscape</p><p>14:55 - Where AI is Taking the Industry</p><p>23:42 - If Interfaces Don’t Matter, What Does?</p><p>25:44 - What Happens When AI is Everywhere?</p><p><br></p><p>Chapter 3: Money, Meaning, Maslow</p><p>32:15 - Why Language Models Are Just the Starting Point</p><p>35:57 - Build the Brain or Protect It?</p><p>38:33 - What Founders Should Pay Attention To</p><p>41:23 - Lessons from the Evolution of Silicon Valley</p><p>42:28 - Should India Build Its Own Model?</p><p>46:31 - Are AI Bets Overblown?</p><p>50:00 - What’s Holding Innovation Back in India?</p><p>54:15 - Education as a Social Experience</p><p>59:25 - Moving into Tech and Leadership</p><p>1:00:08 - Building vs Leading: What to Choose</p><p>1:06:38 - Stories from Google & SoftBank</p><p>1:16:11 - How Risk Appetite Evolves</p><p>1:20:18 - Closing Reflections</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Here’s one of my favourite conversations with Palo Alto Networks’ CEO, Nikesh Arora. This episode is a CxO’s playbook where we deep dived into the mindset, strategy, and decision-making frameworks that have shaped Nikesh’s journey across roles at Google, SoftBank, and now leading one of the world’s top cybersecurity firms. This isn’t just business talk. Learn how to think like a CxO when the rules of the game keep changing.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & Entrepreneur</p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</a></p><p><br></p><p>#NikeshArora - CEO, Palo Alto Networks</p><p>Twitter: <a href="https://x.com/nikesharora" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikesharora</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikesh-arora-02894670/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikesh-arora-02894670/</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p><br></p><p>Chapter 1: Action vs Inaction</p><p>01:51 - Nikesh’s Early Years</p><p>04:17 - The Real Threats in Cybersecurity</p><p>08:13 - What Will Outlast the Disruptions?</p><p><br></p><p>Chapter 2: Can We Ever Be Safe Again?</p><p>10:31 - Rethinking Safety in a Changing World</p><p>12:44 - How to Look at the Cybersecurity Landscape</p><p>14:55 - Where AI is Taking the Industry</p><p>23:42 - If Interfaces Don’t Matter, What Does?</p><p>25:44 - What Happens When AI is Everywhere?</p><p><br></p><p>Chapter 3: Money, Meaning, Maslow</p><p>32:15 - Why Language Models Are Just the Starting Point</p><p>35:57 - Build the Brain or Protect It?</p><p>38:33 - What Founders Should Pay Attention To</p><p>41:23 - Lessons from the Evolution of Silicon Valley</p><p>42:28 - Should India Build Its Own Model?</p><p>46:31 - Are AI Bets Overblown?</p><p>50:00 - What’s Holding Innovation Back in India?</p><p>54:15 - Education as a Social Experience</p><p>59:25 - Moving into Tech and Leadership</p><p>1:00:08 - Building vs Leading: What to Choose</p><p>1:06:38 - Stories from Google & SoftBank</p><p>1:16:11 - How Risk Appetite Evolves</p><p>1:20:18 - Closing Reflections</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a></p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify</p><p><a href="https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a></p><p><br></p><p>#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x Nikesh Arora, CEO of Palo Alto Networks | People by WTF | Ep. 11 Trailer</title>
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<pubDate >Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>In what can be described as one of my favourite chats, I sat down with Nikesh Arora, CEO of Palo Alto Networks, to discuss where cybersecurity is headed in a post-AI world, why the education system is overrated, and a whole lot more. Full episode drops soon. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/nikhilkamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NikhilKamath</a> - Investor & Entrepreneur Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbFR2WjRuTGplNDhsU0NVaXJta1BzRUJCQUFZUXxBQ3Jtc0ttTjUzSUF4OXBiZ0hxdFBNbmM0a3NYWFVOMnZXaDhENy16dGNXeUNXeWFvY0sxNVhJVGR5RVR3bFIxd0pjODktLVdtZHFocVMxeUUwOXlMendOQ2tENHB5QmVCY1QyV1JidDdESnVHdWo1dVNIV2RRSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a> LinkedIn:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTgzMWFUSk5yMzNoc0FqUGNqNEdBdXNuNXZKUXxBQ3Jtc0tuWHFLM0s3ZFllOUVWMnlvOERoOWJuUExacDl1cTdJMkxfbS1NU0FOOGdkeUppUTJnTUs2MVRvUm1EYXZER1Y5NHhIMUt3c3BwQUhQMjlTSTZNNk8zOWVUanZiMWRXck01Wld4WVQ2aEE3U3VTbVNKTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkJqZ2hPWGNZRmtVeXJxYTlIYVJDMTBZMzVDZ3xBQ3Jtc0trSlRCVXlDVDdoUzZJQTZZWXhNbVZ6MGlKNmQyNWdvUXhDTmkwQlFzWWZPYy1VT1NTMUs2NS1rQzFheHA4MWk2UWtYM0NLNTdfMHlLTk5MR2tPVy1mM3FGTExuWXZpQWRFYzJvWTF1TVFBYnhBREpiZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Facebook: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa200YzRJN0tBdUk0NUpQUk1sSEZaOU9pNEprZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuM2RZUDM3b01mWVpDelNfbzZlX0VUUnk4VjFCVnNsN2lYeXJQSFpxUmgyM1RzV0lCYmxfMzZxejlHUzRfWWtlU01rNzhtWUJyQ1YwbHFEb3RvdGE5aDBRTnZwMHVUUUJNZDlMWXp2Y291dEFFaHNXdw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> / nikhilkamathcio</a>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/nikesharora" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NikeshArora</a> - CEO, Palo Alto Networks Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUlTWGFQTFpqUHVEeVFFMTU5VWpYcjZJQXZFZ3xBQ3Jtc0trWTNjb2E1MXdUbWRoSkVxUVE5QmZsNVNtdW1sTkZnM0JjZE9xRk5uWnp3bG51bkZIby1wWG5PQ0s1cjF3NFVpazlWSi1GaXc0Y2FHREE5RG4tODZfV1BsWEJQaWs1T2tXMmhhdWYwM1JaZ0V1elk2RQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikesharora&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikesharora</a> LinkedIN:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWhYbnVVVThwRFEtNUR5eF96LVZ6TFN1c1dpZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsZHU2ZWhmc0hwT1N0TEwzUVVEejJ1OVlLN0k4MnRxa1FvZ1k3OFUtMHpubTQ2OE5lVHJ2SzhMbkNHT3lrX1pNM3I3aWYyMG90eXFVcW5xMXRZTnk4cFhsYXpSZHBFZkljUG0xQjBIQjJhSWJVWDJuYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikesh-arora-02894670%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikesh-arora-02894670</a>  Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHVVX0lCb1poZUxDQUdLNDJvQ2oxZVpNUkt3QXxBQ3Jtc0ttNnFKSzVDc25hbXdHUnI0V0YxbWw5d05fbWJVT1FhdldfS1JPMzdZN1hIcXBXUzcwNGNUSUwyZGRQeHVYYndyRzVjMjU1bndGU1YwRkx1WDMtM0N3cEtya2JRN2FZajBISXBSbWZWbmJqWE5rc29abw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4nsm4ezn&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a> Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3I4SHFqdmJjYWlDaFRKcURsQ182ZVhHSVpDQXxBQ3Jtc0trSFJWU3FnaU9BWEJmT0g5R3ZCS3JNTUt1SVFpdjNXV2pTYTNNZXFsLVNZUTR0Tm9wSlY1Mi11em52U2o5bC1WUEdtc1ZLTXlkY1U0cC05TFNkbXg2bi02TVBtQmVFYzBDOGNOdlNyY1NOMDY5MkdwRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyme92c59&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a> Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0ZJdzJhVGcyXzQ3RVhhMmRkdENfd1NXVV9NUXxBQ3Jtc0ttVE8wM3RtdHQzYldwV1FxaEZVQWhDazNwWklTZ3VqdTJrYmRzZTVWSktqcW1vYzZSWFZsYjVETFBuNF9OQmtwdW1OMHZnM0xTbTRnRUM4bk4xWGFnT2daMVM3clBJOFY1a2JVN2NMYlYzaTc3Zzl4OA&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4tjua4th&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/wtfiswithnikhilkamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/peoplebywtf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PeopleByWTF</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/wtfonline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WTFOnline</a></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>In what can be described as one of my favourite chats, I sat down with Nikesh Arora, CEO of Palo Alto Networks, to discuss where cybersecurity is headed in a post-AI world, why the education system is overrated, and a whole lot more. Full episode drops soon. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/nikhilkamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NikhilKamath</a> - Investor & Entrepreneur Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbFR2WjRuTGplNDhsU0NVaXJta1BzRUJCQUFZUXxBQ3Jtc0ttTjUzSUF4OXBiZ0hxdFBNbmM0a3NYWFVOMnZXaDhENy16dGNXeUNXeWFvY0sxNVhJVGR5RVR3bFIxd0pjODktLVdtZHFocVMxeUUwOXlMendOQ2tENHB5QmVCY1QyV1JidDdESnVHdWo1dVNIV2RRSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a> LinkedIn:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbTgzMWFUSk5yMzNoc0FqUGNqNEdBdXNuNXZKUXxBQ3Jtc0tuWHFLM0s3ZFllOUVWMnlvOERoOWJuUExacDl1cTdJMkxfbS1NU0FOOGdkeUppUTJnTUs2MVRvUm1EYXZER1Y5NHhIMUt3c3BwQUhQMjlTSTZNNk8zOWVUanZiMWRXck01Wld4WVQ2aEE3U3VTbVNKTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkJqZ2hPWGNZRmtVeXJxYTlIYVJDMTBZMzVDZ3xBQ3Jtc0trSlRCVXlDVDdoUzZJQTZZWXhNbVZ6MGlKNmQyNWdvUXhDTmkwQlFzWWZPYy1VT1NTMUs2NS1rQzFheHA4MWk2UWtYM0NLNTdfMHlLTk5MR2tPVy1mM3FGTExuWXZpQWRFYzJvWTF1TVFBYnhBREpiZw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Facebook: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa200YzRJN0tBdUk0NUpQUk1sSEZaOU9pNEprZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuM2RZUDM3b01mWVpDelNfbzZlX0VUUnk4VjFCVnNsN2lYeXJQSFpxUmgyM1RzV0lCYmxfMzZxejlHUzRfWWtlU01rNzhtWUJyQ1YwbHFEb3RvdGE5aDBRTnZwMHVUUUJNZDlMWXp2Y291dEFFaHNXdw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> / nikhilkamathcio</a>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/nikesharora" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NikeshArora</a> - CEO, Palo Alto Networks Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUlTWGFQTFpqUHVEeVFFMTU5VWpYcjZJQXZFZ3xBQ3Jtc0trWTNjb2E1MXdUbWRoSkVxUVE5QmZsNVNtdW1sTkZnM0JjZE9xRk5uWnp3bG51bkZIby1wWG5PQ0s1cjF3NFVpazlWSi1GaXc0Y2FHREE5RG4tODZfV1BsWEJQaWs1T2tXMmhhdWYwM1JaZ0V1elk2RQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikesharora&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikesharora</a> LinkedIN:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWhYbnVVVThwRFEtNUR5eF96LVZ6TFN1c1dpZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsZHU2ZWhmc0hwT1N0TEwzUVVEejJ1OVlLN0k4MnRxa1FvZ1k3OFUtMHpubTQ2OE5lVHJ2SzhMbkNHT3lrX1pNM3I3aWYyMG90eXFVcW5xMXRZTnk4cFhsYXpSZHBFZkljUG0xQjBIQjJhSWJVWDJuYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikesh-arora-02894670%2F&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikesh-arora-02894670</a>  Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHVVX0lCb1poZUxDQUdLNDJvQ2oxZVpNUkt3QXxBQ3Jtc0ttNnFKSzVDc25hbXdHUnI0V0YxbWw5d05fbWJVT1FhdldfS1JPMzdZN1hIcXBXUzcwNGNUSUwyZGRQeHVYYndyRzVjMjU1bndGU1YwRkx1WDMtM0N3cEtya2JRN2FZajBISXBSbWZWbmJqWE5rc29abw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4nsm4ezn&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a> Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3I4SHFqdmJjYWlDaFRKcURsQ182ZVhHSVpDQXxBQ3Jtc0trSFJWU3FnaU9BWEJmT0g5R3ZCS3JNTUt1SVFpdjNXV2pTYTNNZXFsLVNZUTR0Tm9wSlY1Mi11em52U2o5bC1WUEdtc1ZLTXlkY1U0cC05TFNkbXg2bi02TVBtQmVFYzBDOGNOdlNyY1NOMDY5MkdwRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyme92c59&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59</a> Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0ZJdzJhVGcyXzQ3RVhhMmRkdENfd1NXVV9NUXxBQ3Jtc0ttVE8wM3RtdHQzYldwV1FxaEZVQWhDazNwWklTZ3VqdTJrYmRzZTVWSktqcW1vYzZSWFZsYjVETFBuNF9OQmtwdW1OMHZnM0xTbTRnRUM4bk4xWGFnT2daMVM3clBJOFY1a2JVN2NMYlYzaTc3Zzl4OA&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4tjua4th&v=oM61CnQnrpQ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/wtfiswithnikhilkamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WTFiswithnikhilkamath</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/peoplebywtf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PeopleByWTF</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/wtfonline" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WTFOnline</a></p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x Netflix Co CEO, Ted Sarandos: Why Local Stories Win Global Audiences | People by WTF | Ep. 10</title>
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<pubDate >Sat, 07 Jun 2025 09:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>In this candid deep dive, I sit down with Netflix Co-CEO Ted Sarandos to unpack the company’s remarkable journey from a DVD-by-mail service to a global streaming giant. We revisit Netflix's early battle with Blockbuster, the bold pivot to streaming, the company’s plans for India, and how they cracked the code on turning binge-watching into a universal habit.What was interesting for me was how he spots the next phenomenon before the world catches on. For anyone in media, tech, or entrepreneurship, here’s a masterclass in building and scaling in the entertainment space, and a reminder that you don’t always need a long story, just the right one.</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #TedSarandos - Co-CEO, NetflixLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedsarandos/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tedsarandos </p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps: </p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:32 - Ted’s favourite Indian creator</p><p>02:15 - Netflix’s journey, pivots & vision08:34 - Netflix’s hiring culture</p><p>11:52 - Ted’s journalism roots14:06 - Ted’s childhood & relationship with money</p><p>16:39 - Rapid fire & banter</p><p>18:17 - How much of the world is narrative?</p><p>19:52 - Competing with Blockbuster</p><p>25:13 - Content choices, projections & finding tribes</p><p>28:05 - What defines success for Netflix</p><p>33:56 - How to best serve your story?</p><p>37:15 - Career advice & work cultures in India vs. US</p><p>41:02 - Will Netflix produce theatrical movies?</p><p>42:20 - Future of the theatre business</p><p>45:30 - The next big disruption</p><p>47:40 - Can AI create movies?</p><p>51:42 - Netflix’s tech & what it’s doing right</p><p>57:38 - Competing with other distributors</p><p>1:02:39 - Netflix’s streaming strategy</p><p>1:03:44 - What happens to conventional TV?</p><p>1:05:01 - Why people love true crime</p><p>1:06:11 - Why Netflix isn’t betting on live sports broadcasting</p><p>1:10:24 - India’s subscription model: why it’s a tough sell</p><p>1:13:29 - Will Netflix have an ads-only model?</p><p>1:16:58 - Married life</p><p>1:18:43 - How important is India for Netflix?</p><p>1:21:57 - Adapting to country-specific dynamics</p><p>1:24:28 - How Netflix greenlights projects</p><p>1:24:53 - A founder’s baggage: filling big shoes</p><p>1:28:17 - Validation & leadership</p><p>1:32:11 - Indian personality who left a lasting impression on Ted</p><p>1:34:11 - Ted’s secret to greenlighting hits</p><p>1:41:36 - How diversity contributes to Netflix’s success</p><p>1:42:42 - Can Netflix be global & local in India?</p><p>1:44:47 - Hollywood vs. Netflix</p><p>1:45:49 - Netflix’s role in podcasting’s future</p><p>1:47:16 - Youth & attention span</p><p>1:48:44 - Netflix’s future in gaming</p><p>1:51:56 - Closing thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>In this candid deep dive, I sit down with Netflix Co-CEO Ted Sarandos to unpack the company’s remarkable journey from a DVD-by-mail service to a global streaming giant. We revisit Netflix's early battle with Blockbuster, the bold pivot to streaming, the company’s plans for India, and how they cracked the code on turning binge-watching into a universal habit.What was interesting for me was how he spots the next phenomenon before the world catches on. For anyone in media, tech, or entrepreneurship, here’s a masterclass in building and scaling in the entertainment space, and a reminder that you don’t always need a long story, just the right one.</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #TedSarandos - Co-CEO, NetflixLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedsarandos/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tedsarandos </p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps: </p><p>00:00 - Intro</p><p>01:32 - Ted’s favourite Indian creator</p><p>02:15 - Netflix’s journey, pivots & vision08:34 - Netflix’s hiring culture</p><p>11:52 - Ted’s journalism roots14:06 - Ted’s childhood & relationship with money</p><p>16:39 - Rapid fire & banter</p><p>18:17 - How much of the world is narrative?</p><p>19:52 - Competing with Blockbuster</p><p>25:13 - Content choices, projections & finding tribes</p><p>28:05 - What defines success for Netflix</p><p>33:56 - How to best serve your story?</p><p>37:15 - Career advice & work cultures in India vs. US</p><p>41:02 - Will Netflix produce theatrical movies?</p><p>42:20 - Future of the theatre business</p><p>45:30 - The next big disruption</p><p>47:40 - Can AI create movies?</p><p>51:42 - Netflix’s tech & what it’s doing right</p><p>57:38 - Competing with other distributors</p><p>1:02:39 - Netflix’s streaming strategy</p><p>1:03:44 - What happens to conventional TV?</p><p>1:05:01 - Why people love true crime</p><p>1:06:11 - Why Netflix isn’t betting on live sports broadcasting</p><p>1:10:24 - India’s subscription model: why it’s a tough sell</p><p>1:13:29 - Will Netflix have an ads-only model?</p><p>1:16:58 - Married life</p><p>1:18:43 - How important is India for Netflix?</p><p>1:21:57 - Adapting to country-specific dynamics</p><p>1:24:28 - How Netflix greenlights projects</p><p>1:24:53 - A founder’s baggage: filling big shoes</p><p>1:28:17 - Validation & leadership</p><p>1:32:11 - Indian personality who left a lasting impression on Ted</p><p>1:34:11 - Ted’s secret to greenlighting hits</p><p>1:41:36 - How diversity contributes to Netflix’s success</p><p>1:42:42 - Can Netflix be global & local in India?</p><p>1:44:47 - Hollywood vs. Netflix</p><p>1:45:49 - Netflix’s role in podcasting’s future</p><p>1:47:16 - Youth & attention span</p><p>1:48:44 - Netflix’s future in gaming</p><p>1:51:56 - Closing thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Netflix&apos;s Ted Sarandos x Nikhil Kamath | India&apos;s Content Boom | People by WTF | Ep. 10 Trailer</title>
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<pubDate >Thu, 05 Jun 2025 14:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>I sat down with Ted Sarandos, Co-CEO of Netflix, for a no-holds-barred chat. From what’s really disrupting the entertainment industry, how Netflix greenlights projects, and India’s potential, we covered it all. Full episode drops soon. </p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcioLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #TedSarandos - Co-CEO, NetflixLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedsarandos/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tedsarandos </p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>I sat down with Ted Sarandos, Co-CEO of Netflix, for a no-holds-barred chat. From what’s really disrupting the entertainment industry, how Netflix greenlights projects, and India’s potential, we covered it all. Full episode drops soon. </p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcioLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #TedSarandos - Co-CEO, NetflixLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tedsarandos/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tedsarandos </p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x YouTube CEO, Neal Mohan | The World&apos;s Biggest Stage | People by WTF | Ep. 9 Teaser</title>
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<pubDate >Sun, 25 May 2025 04:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a glimpse into my chat with YouTube CEO Neal Mohan. We talk about the future of the platform to the masks we wear, and what happens when we take them off. Stay tuned for the episode</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #NealMohan - CEO, YouTubeTwitter: https://x.com/nealmohan LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-mohan/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neal_mohan Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NealMohanCEO/ Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a glimpse into my chat with YouTube CEO Neal Mohan. We talk about the future of the platform to the masks we wear, and what happens when we take them off. Stay tuned for the episode</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #NealMohan - CEO, YouTubeTwitter: https://x.com/nealmohan LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-mohan/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neal_mohan Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NealMohanCEO/ Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th#WTFiswithnikhilkamath #PeopleByWTF #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x YouTube CEO, Neal Mohan | People by WTF Ep.9</title>
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<pubDate >Sat, 24 May 2025 14:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with YouTube CEO Neal Mohan about what defines the platform today and where it’s headed. We discuss why audiences now trust podcasters over traditional news, and what the next decade of content consumption might look like. For me, this wasn’t just a chat. It was a chance to question the shifting boundaries between passion, talent, identity, and influence. We also dug into how algorithms shape what people see. If you’ve ever wondered what drives YouTube behind the screen, this conversation peels back the curtain. </p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #NealMohan - CEO, YouTubeTwitter: https://x.com/nealmohanLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-mohan/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neal_mohanFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/NealMohanCEO/ </p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>01:25 - Defining WAVES’ vision for the creative industry </p><p>3:10 - Creators & politics: More linked than ever? </p><p>04:50 - Did YouTube shape the US election? </p><p>08:49 - Are podcasts replacing traditional news? </p><p>13:12 - Defining YouTube </p><p>17:21 - The future of content consumption </p><p>22:50 - YouTube movie releases: Fighting piracy </p><p>24:53 - Influencer vs Entrepreneur </p><p>28:19 - Tips to crack YouTube’s algorithm </p><p>31:15 - Neal on passion: Input vs output </p><p>36:54 - Growing up between cross-cultural content </p><p>41:16 - Navigating identity & Indian market </p><p>46:33 - Where should investors bet?</p><p>50:54 - Building YouTube’s competitor </p><p>53:54 - Who owns the most data? </p><p>57:16 - Attention spans: Shrinking or growing? </p><p>59:05 - Learning: YouTube’s core use case </p><p>1:04:37 - Final thoughts: The rise of India’s creator economy</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I speak with YouTube CEO Neal Mohan about what defines the platform today and where it’s headed. We discuss why audiences now trust podcasters over traditional news, and what the next decade of content consumption might look like. For me, this wasn’t just a chat. It was a chance to question the shifting boundaries between passion, talent, identity, and influence. We also dug into how algorithms shape what people see. If you’ve ever wondered what drives YouTube behind the screen, this conversation peels back the curtain. </p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath - Investor & EntrepreneurTwitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #NealMohan - CEO, YouTubeTwitter: https://x.com/nealmohanLinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/neal-mohan/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/neal_mohanFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/NealMohanCEO/ </p><p><br></p><p>00:00 - Intro </p><p>01:25 - Defining WAVES’ vision for the creative industry </p><p>3:10 - Creators & politics: More linked than ever? </p><p>04:50 - Did YouTube shape the US election? </p><p>08:49 - Are podcasts replacing traditional news? </p><p>13:12 - Defining YouTube </p><p>17:21 - The future of content consumption </p><p>22:50 - YouTube movie releases: Fighting piracy </p><p>24:53 - Influencer vs Entrepreneur </p><p>28:19 - Tips to crack YouTube’s algorithm </p><p>31:15 - Neal on passion: Input vs output </p><p>36:54 - Growing up between cross-cultural content </p><p>41:16 - Navigating identity & Indian market </p><p>46:33 - Where should investors bet?</p><p>50:54 - Building YouTube’s competitor </p><p>53:54 - Who owns the most data? </p><p>57:16 - Attention spans: Shrinking or growing? </p><p>59:05 - Learning: YouTube’s core use case </p><p>1:04:37 - Final thoughts: The rise of India’s creator economy</p>]]></description>
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<title >Bill Gates x Nikhil Kamath Part 2 | People by WTF | Ep.8</title>
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<pubDate >Fri, 11 Apr 2025 06:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always been curious to know why people are the way they are. After reading Bill’s memoir, Source Code, it felt more like peeling back layers than simply asking questions. Part 2 of our chat, I got to know him in a way I haven’t before. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, Bill talks about the drive and curiosity that keeps him active, playing ‘Crennis’ with Sachin Tendulkar, his childhood, how AI can reshape capitalism, and many more. </p><p><br></p><p>Is success in today’s capitalistic world bred by some form of adversity in childhood? Ten years from now, will a huge population be a boon or a bane from this capitalistic lens?</p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>01:12 - Bill’s frequent visits to India</p><p>02:22 - Bill’s memoir Source Code, childhood and family dynamics</p><p>07:51 - Success in today’s capitalistic world</p><p>09:28 - What's the secret to Bill’s focus?</p><p>11:58 - Is vulnerability the new heroic trait?</p><p>14:50 - How tough is Bill on himself?</p><p>17:33 - Huge population: burden or advantage with AI?</p><p>20:55 - What would we do if we didn't have to work?</p><p>24:35 - Insights from being the world’s richest</p><p>29:05 - Money: Motivation to make it v/s be Altruistic?</p><p>34:25 - How Bill relates to the youth</p><p>39:15 - Nikhil's attempt to pitch for a job in the A.I world (he's serious)</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p><br></p><p>#BillGates Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates Foundation</p><p>Twitter : https://twitter.com/BillGates</p><p>Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/</p><p>Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/</p><p>Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/</p><p>Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates</p><p><br></p><p>#PeopleByWTF #WTFiswithnikhilkamath #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>I’ve always been curious to know why people are the way they are. After reading Bill’s memoir, Source Code, it felt more like peeling back layers than simply asking questions. Part 2 of our chat, I got to know him in a way I haven’t before. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, Bill talks about the drive and curiosity that keeps him active, playing ‘Crennis’ with Sachin Tendulkar, his childhood, how AI can reshape capitalism, and many more. </p><p><br></p><p>Is success in today’s capitalistic world bred by some form of adversity in childhood? Ten years from now, will a huge population be a boon or a bane from this capitalistic lens?</p><p><br></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>01:12 - Bill’s frequent visits to India</p><p>02:22 - Bill’s memoir Source Code, childhood and family dynamics</p><p>07:51 - Success in today’s capitalistic world</p><p>09:28 - What's the secret to Bill’s focus?</p><p>11:58 - Is vulnerability the new heroic trait?</p><p>14:50 - How tough is Bill on himself?</p><p>17:33 - Huge population: burden or advantage with AI?</p><p>20:55 - What would we do if we didn't have to work?</p><p>24:35 - Insights from being the world’s richest</p><p>29:05 - Money: Motivation to make it v/s be Altruistic?</p><p>34:25 - How Bill relates to the youth</p><p>39:15 - Nikhil's attempt to pitch for a job in the A.I world (he's serious)</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p><br></p><p>#BillGates Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates Foundation</p><p>Twitter : https://twitter.com/BillGates</p><p>Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/</p><p>Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/</p><p>Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/</p><p>Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates</p><p><br></p><p>#PeopleByWTF #WTFiswithnikhilkamath #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Bill Gates x Nikhil Kamath Part 2: Wealth, Wisdom &amp; World Change | People by WTF | EP.8 Trailer</title>
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<pubDate >Wed, 09 Apr 2025 14:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>A conversation that veers from unexpected childhood confessions to what still drives him after decades at the top. Stay tuned for Part 2 of my conversation with Bill Gates.</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_appFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/#BillGates Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates FoundationTwitter : https://twitter.com/BillGatesLinkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates</p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th #PeopleByWTF #WTFiswithnikhilkamath #WTFOnline</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>A conversation that veers from unexpected childhood confessions to what still drives him after decades at the top. Stay tuned for Part 2 of my conversation with Bill Gates.</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_appFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/#BillGates Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates FoundationTwitter : https://twitter.com/BillGatesLinkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates</p><p><br></p><p>Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4eznWatch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59Watch 'WTF Online' on Spotify https://tinyurl.com/4tjua4th #PeopleByWTF #WTFiswithnikhilkamath #WTFOnline</p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x NZ PM Christopher Luxon | People by WTF Ep #7</title>
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<pubDate >Sat, 05 Apr 2025 05:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>In our previous episodes, we’ve often spoken about the parallels between Business and Politics; be it risk taking abilities, micro vs macro zooming abilities, & most importantly, leadership. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we sit down with Christopher Luxon, Prime Minister of New Zealand, to talk about exactly that. We also talk about the challenges of public scrutiny, and how global dynamics translate in today’s world. </p><p><br></p><p>If the leaders of tomorrow come from unexpected, and more nuanced places, who should we be looking at next? Could entrepreneurs, artists, business minds be the future of politics?</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p>LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p>Instagram:⁠https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p>Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p><br></p><p>#ChristopherLuxon Prime Minister of New Zealand </p><p>Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/chrisluxonmp⁠ </p><p>LinkedIn: ⁠https://nz.linkedin.com/in/christopher-luxon-bb701b195⁠ </p><p>Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/christopherluxon⁠ </p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps: </p><p>00:00 - Introduction </p><p>01:19 - PM Christopher on his Experience with India </p><p>02:38 - Haka in New Zealand’s Parliament </p><p>04:06 - Family & Prioritizing Responsibilities </p><p>06:41 - Transition from Business to Politics </p><p>09:41 - How Business Skills Affect Politics? </p><p>12:39 - Handling with the Highs & Lows </p><p>14:10 - PM Christopher on Dealing with Critique & Social Media </p><p>16:28 - The Role of Money in Politics </p><p>18:57 - Stakeholders vs. Citizens: The Tougher Audience? </p><p>20:06 - New Zealand’s Sheep-to-People Ratio </p><p>22:01 - Growing Investments & Economy in NZ </p><p>23:25 - Parallels in USA & NZ Politics </p><p>26:15 - PM Christopher on Meeting Trump </p><p>28:45 - Journey of Entrepreneurship to Politics </p><p>31:54 - Career Switch from & to Politics </p><p>36:12 - PM Christopher on Anticipated Geopolitical Conditions </p><p>37:09 - The Ideal Political Future</p><p>38:09 - In A World Without Fear </p><p>39:40 - Generational Shift in Optimism</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>In our previous episodes, we’ve often spoken about the parallels between Business and Politics; be it risk taking abilities, micro vs macro zooming abilities, & most importantly, leadership. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we sit down with Christopher Luxon, Prime Minister of New Zealand, to talk about exactly that. We also talk about the challenges of public scrutiny, and how global dynamics translate in today’s world. </p><p><br></p><p>If the leaders of tomorrow come from unexpected, and more nuanced places, who should we be looking at next? Could entrepreneurs, artists, business minds be the future of politics?</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p>LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p>Instagram:⁠https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p>Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio⁠ </p><p><br></p><p>#ChristopherLuxon Prime Minister of New Zealand </p><p>Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/chrisluxonmp⁠ </p><p>LinkedIn: ⁠https://nz.linkedin.com/in/christopher-luxon-bb701b195⁠ </p><p>Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/christopherluxon⁠ </p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps: </p><p>00:00 - Introduction </p><p>01:19 - PM Christopher on his Experience with India </p><p>02:38 - Haka in New Zealand’s Parliament </p><p>04:06 - Family & Prioritizing Responsibilities </p><p>06:41 - Transition from Business to Politics </p><p>09:41 - How Business Skills Affect Politics? </p><p>12:39 - Handling with the Highs & Lows </p><p>14:10 - PM Christopher on Dealing with Critique & Social Media </p><p>16:28 - The Role of Money in Politics </p><p>18:57 - Stakeholders vs. Citizens: The Tougher Audience? </p><p>20:06 - New Zealand’s Sheep-to-People Ratio </p><p>22:01 - Growing Investments & Economy in NZ </p><p>23:25 - Parallels in USA & NZ Politics </p><p>26:15 - PM Christopher on Meeting Trump </p><p>28:45 - Journey of Entrepreneurship to Politics </p><p>31:54 - Career Switch from & to Politics </p><p>36:12 - PM Christopher on Anticipated Geopolitical Conditions </p><p>37:09 - The Ideal Political Future</p><p>38:09 - In A World Without Fear </p><p>39:40 - Generational Shift in Optimism</p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath X PM Christopher Luxon | People by WTF | Ep.7 Trailer</title>
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<pubDate >Sat, 29 Mar 2025 14:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>From corporate life to politics, cricket heartbreaks, people-to-sheep ratio in New Zealand —this conversation has it all. Stay tuned! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/christopherluxon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChristopherLuxon</a> Prime Minister of New Zealand Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbktGNzJwY2JsTkdzT3FJS3Z2WTJBTF9EbVVEQXxBQ3Jtc0trcGk0SzNRRG1QWm41ZXg5c3dvTl9CNFpKVkdoeHdneVI2dlJ0N004VXhKT2dQdVRQWF9mVk9JZkJncE1tUDkzVnB2T3pEanM1OWZNSnp0azF1Z1pHX0ZKei1RUngtV2c2aWNFTWtKeW4xc0thbm14Zw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fchrisluxonmp&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/chrisluxonmp</a> LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDdIS2haQXBoOWRRdUVaTjV1MG9xbnBNcU9uUXxBQ3Jtc0tsMF9qQU9iUVpMdTROb0RWMTdydGp1Vk1rSXlWTnhzTnBHR0gzRUJfTmFFZGVPSmhuVmNrZFVuUTRleFpVdlhwVjVyV3p4cmticXEwbnlacHpiWVB6elREM2YtZ0llVTVBdW5SX0lzLXROZEc1LUM2OA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fnz.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fchristopher-luxon-bb701b195&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> / christopher-luxon-</a>bb701b195  Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGMxMjVrUFBVWWxiOHBOUktVS2VKT1g5TUZQZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuSFVkTlRGX3prVFRhQzFLY2hpWWR5RVo5TDFxMkx6ZjY5WjBCQTl0T1luT1R3U01zcjcxdzlmS1pZMnZuZGhiX2tsZ0lFUjNGX2xUM1hYQVZ1Yjl0a3JCaFRnTVhEMVg3M3cxYjZZZDBoSnVXd1NGcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fchristopherluxon&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ christopherluxon</a>  Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbk8ycDl6czFuekdoUkM5WFlrU2p3cFkyeW5pUXxBQ3Jtc0tuQXR6aDQwUkhlcFRYTmN0SFVmVkNNSHlPZE9oTl9uSE9JOE0zRFFWY2RsRmhwMHRfcjJzcU53SHI5YkIzczFEanU4WXZ1S0ZCZjRMem5GdFV6MkNGZHZuMl81T0VERHEzWFpqUjU5Zmxna003emFDYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fchristopherluxon&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ christopherluxon</a>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/nikhilkamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NikhilKamath</a> Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of ‘WTF is?’ Podcast & ‘People By WTF’ Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3RmaElYZ2UyRmYzbEhDMHpzUHMzYUMya01aQXxBQ3Jtc0tsbXloN0FMMUFsbUVBTjRPQTEyVEhuUG5sYVM2QmsxUGVmTThxZzRuOXN0c3NXOHBtSVNQTDZ0NnYwQVFZV2JHeWQ2X0JUZ0RtVWxPSm5LLUZXMi0yN1hzcFIyeGk0UDNMckZEa19FajZoUU95U09fNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a> LinkedIn:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkY5RFI2b25LSXBJeW0yT2ZMZlFNMUtFeEVuZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsWS1aYjhTSnR2a2VUa19Yei00RUlwX19wajR5WWluMHdXU3NRLWlLSlRjNzhoZXZBR2NZZFBsSnk5M3Y1OXJydDZjNW94MHVSTHBjTzdKM1ZKVElKaWNiTm4tSTR5SDVrLVlEVFpOMDNJM1RCRXlLdw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0hXT3N2VGdfTmNCMTY5SlhwRXhfSTRYWXpuQXxBQ3Jtc0ttbWFwdHEwajJBVVVtZldGUUQ2ZkdiVC1rXzFSVWdtWGM4cEhrREVlaDU2NVBxZzR3MmVtQnQ3c0ZjZi1OdVBwQWtiNzlCTGd3YWt1eVpva0s5MXA1RW8ya0xpWnd0X1NBMFJQNE5XUXJUSmF6dkNOVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1AtZlZyUzJEMnhFZUUxZTdFdkROZDFBc2V2UXxBQ3Jtc0tubGxOUTgwT05zcDNmR1YwczdSb00yLWozNlpwM2ZWaGVZY0ZiRVF6WWVBZF9wU3Y4Z3ZXUS1qdUlqOGxYVkhPb0VDNmFHTXN2d2ZDRVhTcFZFVEVnZWwxVW9zMkJiOGRrQ2s4V1p3V29keFEyQ0hRVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbElLdnVwM3QtQlFPSkJ2c0IwdkhuR0l3dHh6QXxBQ3Jtc0ttaklyODR5LUtOM1dwQmRnRXBWeDJyN0NIMnpMNWk0S1lLYU5wcHFwSVJvakJiMXIyOTNWTjl1VTdaU2dwWlVyY0FNSzJUaTlZYWtlRWlGS04tZFhJaTBtY3dMN05wc3UzOHFwT0VObEdtd24wQklfYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4nsm4ezn&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGZpRFAxWHZ1dVVDZkdJX1F6akt0YWM2MURKUXxBQ3Jtc0tsWVV6dm1PTGxPVzd0UE5vZ0Y1MXQtS204aE53ZEl5OHVKVG1fVnpRaTl3eEcxczJNSFFGVmZWMXl3MTV5MmtpRHYtVnZJSGp2ZFRtQTc4ZzNHMHh2eTJ2dGwyenZWV1htdW5hMDRxMHdwOG9GNTBQOA&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyme92c59&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59#WTFiswithnikhilkamath</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/peoplebywtf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PeopleByWTF</a></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>From corporate life to politics, cricket heartbreaks, people-to-sheep ratio in New Zealand —this conversation has it all. Stay tuned! <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/christopherluxon" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChristopherLuxon</a> Prime Minister of New Zealand Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbktGNzJwY2JsTkdzT3FJS3Z2WTJBTF9EbVVEQXxBQ3Jtc0trcGk0SzNRRG1QWm41ZXg5c3dvTl9CNFpKVkdoeHdneVI2dlJ0N004VXhKT2dQdVRQWF9mVk9JZkJncE1tUDkzVnB2T3pEanM1OWZNSnp0azF1Z1pHX0ZKei1RUngtV2c2aWNFTWtKeW4xc0thbm14Zw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fchrisluxonmp&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/chrisluxonmp</a> LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDdIS2haQXBoOWRRdUVaTjV1MG9xbnBNcU9uUXxBQ3Jtc0tsMF9qQU9iUVpMdTROb0RWMTdydGp1Vk1rSXlWTnhzTnBHR0gzRUJfTmFFZGVPSmhuVmNrZFVuUTRleFpVdlhwVjVyV3p4cmticXEwbnlacHpiWVB6elREM2YtZ0llVTVBdW5SX0lzLXROZEc1LUM2OA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fnz.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fchristopher-luxon-bb701b195&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> / christopher-luxon-</a>bb701b195  Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGMxMjVrUFBVWWxiOHBOUktVS2VKT1g5TUZQZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuSFVkTlRGX3prVFRhQzFLY2hpWWR5RVo5TDFxMkx6ZjY5WjBCQTl0T1luT1R3U01zcjcxdzlmS1pZMnZuZGhiX2tsZ0lFUjNGX2xUM1hYQVZ1Yjl0a3JCaFRnTVhEMVg3M3cxYjZZZDBoSnVXd1NGcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fchristopherluxon&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ christopherluxon</a>  Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbk8ycDl6czFuekdoUkM5WFlrU2p3cFkyeW5pUXxBQ3Jtc0tuQXR6aDQwUkhlcFRYTmN0SFVmVkNNSHlPZE9oTl9uSE9JOE0zRFFWY2RsRmhwMHRfcjJzcU53SHI5YkIzczFEanU4WXZ1S0ZCZjRMem5GdFV6MkNGZHZuMl81T0VERHEzWFpqUjU5Zmxna003emFDYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fchristopherluxon&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ christopherluxon</a>  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/nikhilkamath" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NikhilKamath</a> Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas Host of ‘WTF is?’ Podcast & ‘People By WTF’ Podcast Twitter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3RmaElYZ2UyRmYzbEhDMHpzUHMzYUMya01aQXxBQ3Jtc0tsbXloN0FMMUFsbUVBTjRPQTEyVEhuUG5sYVM2QmsxUGVmTThxZzRuOXN0c3NXOHBtSVNQTDZ0NnYwQVFZV2JHeWQ2X0JUZ0RtVWxPSm5LLUZXMi0yN1hzcFIyeGk0UDNMckZEa19FajZoUU95U09fNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio</a> LinkedIn:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkY5RFI2b25LSXBJeW0yT2ZMZlFNMUtFeEVuZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsWS1aYjhTSnR2a2VUa19Yei00RUlwX19wajR5WWluMHdXU3NRLWlLSlRjNzhoZXZBR2NZZFBsSnk5M3Y1OXJydDZjNW94MHVSTHBjTzdKM1ZKVElKaWNiTm4tSTR5SDVrLVlEVFpOMDNJM1RCRXlLdw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Instagram:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0hXT3N2VGdfTmNCMTY5SlhwRXhfSTRYWXpuQXxBQ3Jtc0ttbWFwdHEwajJBVVVtZldGUUQ2ZkdiVC1rXzFSVWdtWGM4cEhrREVlaDU2NVBxZzR3MmVtQnQ3c0ZjZi1OdVBwQWtiNzlCTGd3YWt1eVpva0s5MXA1RW8ya0xpWnd0X1NBMFJQNE5XUXJUSmF6dkNOVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Facebook:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1AtZlZyUzJEMnhFZUUxZTdFdkROZDFBc2V2UXxBQ3Jtc0tubGxOUTgwT05zcDNmR1YwczdSb00yLWozNlpwM2ZWaGVZY0ZiRVF6WWVBZF9wU3Y4Z3ZXUS1qdUlqOGxYVkhPb0VDNmFHTXN2d2ZDRVhTcFZFVEVnZWwxVW9zMkJiOGRrQ2s4V1p3V29keFEyQ0hRVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnikhilkamathcio&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">/ nikhilkamathcio</a>  Watch 'WTF is' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbElLdnVwM3QtQlFPSkJ2c0IwdkhuR0l3dHh6QXxBQ3Jtc0ttaklyODR5LUtOM1dwQmRnRXBWeDJyN0NIMnpMNWk0S1lLYU5wcHFwSVJvakJiMXIyOTNWTjl1VTdaU2dwWlVyY0FNSzJUaTlZYWtlRWlGS04tZFhJaTBtY3dMN05wc3UzOHFwT0VObEdtd24wQklfYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F4nsm4ezn&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/4nsm4ezn</a>Watch 'People by WTF' Podcast on Spotify <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGZpRFAxWHZ1dVVDZkdJX1F6akt0YWM2MURKUXxBQ3Jtc0tsWVV6dm1PTGxPVzd0UE5vZ0Y1MXQtS204aE53ZEl5OHVKVG1fVnpRaTl3eEcxczJNSFFGVmZWMXl3MTV5MmtpRHYtVnZJSGp2ZFRtQTc4ZzNHMHh2eTJ2dGwyenZWV1htdW5hMDRxMHdwOG9GNTBQOA&q=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fyme92c59&v=GYPubRu12fc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yme92c59#WTFiswithnikhilkamath</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/peoplebywtf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PeopleByWTF</a></p>]]></description>
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<title >People with The Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi x Nikhil Kamath | Ep. 6</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Timestamps -</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>4:10 - Chapter 1 - Childhood</p><p>9:00 - Student Life</p><p>15:55 - Chapter 2 - Parallels between Politics & Entrepreneurship</p><p>17:36 - Competition in Politics</p><p>20:14 - Skills required to enter the field of Politics</p><p>30:39 - Importance of Ideology and Idealism</p><p>38:02 - Social Media and 'Moti Chamdi' in Politics</p><p>44:10 - Anxiety, Setbacks & Risk-Taking Ability</p><p>54:31 - Impact of Policymaking</p><p>1:01:26 - Stepping out of the Comfort Zone and learning from setbacks</p><p>1:15:18 - Personal Relationships</p><p>1:20:05 - Politics and Money</p><p>1:28:50 - Chapter 3 - Governance and Global Politics</p><p>1:31:20 - India's Global Standing in Tech</p><p>1:38:09 - India’s Global Marketing and Geopolitics</p><p>1:46:38 - Chapter 4 - Conclusion (& some fun)</p><p>1:55:00 - Concluding Views and Vision for the Youth</p><p><br></p><p>#NarendraModi - Prime Minister of India</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/narendramodi</p><p>LinkedIN: https://in.linkedin.com/in/narendramodi</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/narendramodi/</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/narendramodi</p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>#PeopleByWTF #WTFiswithnikhilkamath</p><p><br></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Timestamps -</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>4:10 - Chapter 1 - Childhood</p><p>9:00 - Student Life</p><p>15:55 - Chapter 2 - Parallels between Politics & Entrepreneurship</p><p>17:36 - Competition in Politics</p><p>20:14 - Skills required to enter the field of Politics</p><p>30:39 - Importance of Ideology and Idealism</p><p>38:02 - Social Media and 'Moti Chamdi' in Politics</p><p>44:10 - Anxiety, Setbacks & Risk-Taking Ability</p><p>54:31 - Impact of Policymaking</p><p>1:01:26 - Stepping out of the Comfort Zone and learning from setbacks</p><p>1:15:18 - Personal Relationships</p><p>1:20:05 - Politics and Money</p><p>1:28:50 - Chapter 3 - Governance and Global Politics</p><p>1:31:20 - India's Global Standing in Tech</p><p>1:38:09 - India’s Global Marketing and Geopolitics</p><p>1:46:38 - Chapter 4 - Conclusion (& some fun)</p><p>1:55:00 - Concluding Views and Vision for the Youth</p><p><br></p><p>#NarendraModi - Prime Minister of India</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/narendramodi</p><p>LinkedIN: https://in.linkedin.com/in/narendramodi</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/narendramodi/</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/narendramodi</p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha and Gruhas</p><p>Host of 'WTF is' & 'People By WTF' Podcast</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>#PeopleByWTF #WTFiswithnikhilkamath</p><p><br></p>]]></description>
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<title >People with The Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi x Nikhil Kamath | Ep 6 Trailer</title>
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<pubDate >Thu, 09 Jan 2025 14:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x Kumar Birla | People by WTF Ep #5</title>
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<pubDate >Fri, 20 Dec 2024 12:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>We often underestimate how complex leading a legacy might be. Success, I think, beyond a certain point is perhaps not as proportional to hard work as much as it becomes about who you are, where you are and the opportunities you create for yourself. </p><p><br></p><p>To me, Authenticity should be transient. The most interesting question of life is why we are, how we are. In this episode of People by WTF, featuring Kumar Birla, we discuss the different nuances of just that, Life and other things.. </p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Host of 'WTF is' Podcast & People by WTF </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p><br></p><p>#KumarBirla - Chairman of the Aditya Birla Group</p><p><br></p><p>Time stamps - </p><p>00:00 - Introduction </p><p>2:33 - Chapter 1 - Kumar’s Childhood </p><p>4:00 - Last Interview years ago with Simi Garewal </p><p>5:00 - Creativity in Business </p><p>9:20 - Aspirations and Fears as a child </p><p>15:56 - Birla Generational Distinction </p><p>28:50 - Attachment types</p><p>38:00 - “Life is much easier when your need to conform is lower”</p><p>44:38 - Kumar’s private life </p><p>50:20 - What does “legacy” mean to Kumar? | Philanthropy side</p><p>55:08 - Birla Family’s relationship with Mahatma Gandhi </p><p>1:01:55 - Kumar’s College Life </p><p>1:04:50 - Thoughts on Expressing Extreme Emotions</p><p><br></p><p>1:14:49 - Chapter 2 - Life, post becoming a Chartered Accountant</p><p>1:21:56 - Early days at the company at 20 | Sacrifices, Hard Work </p><p>1:25:15 - Friends from back in the day </p><p>1:26:40 - Habits | Food & Sports, Varied Interests </p><p>1:36:10 - Thoughts on Social Media </p><p>1:38:30 - Nikhil’s Transient Point of Views </p><p><br></p><p>1:49:40 - Chapter 3 - Taking Over The Reigns </p><p>1:55:20 - New Economic Policy In India 1991 </p><p>1:57:15 - Thoughts on Private Equity/ Venture Capitalists </p><p>2:00:50 - Birla’s brands | Paints & Jewelry insights </p><p>2:05:00 - What would Nikhil build with 10 CR?</p><p>2:07:38 - Advice to young entrepreneurs</p><p>2:10:27 - Time to Pivot in Business | People Management </p><p>2:15:08 - Kumar on Intentional Living </p><p>2:17:20 - Closing Thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>#peoplebywtf #wtfiswithnikhilkamath</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>We often underestimate how complex leading a legacy might be. Success, I think, beyond a certain point is perhaps not as proportional to hard work as much as it becomes about who you are, where you are and the opportunities you create for yourself. </p><p><br></p><p>To me, Authenticity should be transient. The most interesting question of life is why we are, how we are. In this episode of People by WTF, featuring Kumar Birla, we discuss the different nuances of just that, Life and other things.. </p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Host of 'WTF is' Podcast & People by WTF </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p><br></p><p>#KumarBirla - Chairman of the Aditya Birla Group</p><p><br></p><p>Time stamps - </p><p>00:00 - Introduction </p><p>2:33 - Chapter 1 - Kumar’s Childhood </p><p>4:00 - Last Interview years ago with Simi Garewal </p><p>5:00 - Creativity in Business </p><p>9:20 - Aspirations and Fears as a child </p><p>15:56 - Birla Generational Distinction </p><p>28:50 - Attachment types</p><p>38:00 - “Life is much easier when your need to conform is lower”</p><p>44:38 - Kumar’s private life </p><p>50:20 - What does “legacy” mean to Kumar? | Philanthropy side</p><p>55:08 - Birla Family’s relationship with Mahatma Gandhi </p><p>1:01:55 - Kumar’s College Life </p><p>1:04:50 - Thoughts on Expressing Extreme Emotions</p><p><br></p><p>1:14:49 - Chapter 2 - Life, post becoming a Chartered Accountant</p><p>1:21:56 - Early days at the company at 20 | Sacrifices, Hard Work </p><p>1:25:15 - Friends from back in the day </p><p>1:26:40 - Habits | Food & Sports, Varied Interests </p><p>1:36:10 - Thoughts on Social Media </p><p>1:38:30 - Nikhil’s Transient Point of Views </p><p><br></p><p>1:49:40 - Chapter 3 - Taking Over The Reigns </p><p>1:55:20 - New Economic Policy In India 1991 </p><p>1:57:15 - Thoughts on Private Equity/ Venture Capitalists </p><p>2:00:50 - Birla’s brands | Paints & Jewelry insights </p><p>2:05:00 - What would Nikhil build with 10 CR?</p><p>2:07:38 - Advice to young entrepreneurs</p><p>2:10:27 - Time to Pivot in Business | People Management </p><p>2:15:08 - Kumar on Intentional Living </p><p>2:17:20 - Closing Thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>#peoplebywtf #wtfiswithnikhilkamath</p>]]></description>
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<title >Ep.5 Trailer | People by WTF: Nikhil Kamath &amp; Kumar Birla</title>
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<pubDate >Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Life is much simpler if your need to conform is lower. Our next guest needs no introduction. </p><p><br></p><p>stay tuned. </p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas Host of #wtfiswithnikhilkamath Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #KumarBirla Chairman of the Aditya Birla Group</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Life is much simpler if your need to conform is lower. Our next guest needs no introduction. </p><p><br></p><p>stay tuned. </p><p><br></p><p>#nikhilkamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas Host of #wtfiswithnikhilkamath Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ #KumarBirla Chairman of the Aditya Birla Group</p>]]></description>
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<title >WTF is Artificial Intelligence Really? | Yann LeCun x Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF Ep #4</title>
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<pubDate >Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>A lot of us have heard conjectures around A.I., edge cases of the positive and negative side of A.I., and a lot of us are trying to predict what’s next. Most of my understanding of A.I. comes only from viewing what is apparent today.. reinforcement learning spaces like chat gpt becoming a go-to.. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, we uncover the basics of this mystery of artificial intelligence with one of the founding fathers of A.I., Yann LeCun. We spoke about popular AI myths and broke down complex concepts that can perhaps help the next generation of builders build in this space. </p><p><br></p><p>To learn more about Machine Learning, we’ve collated some sources for your benefit and growth in this industry. </p><p><br></p><p>(https://www.notion.so/Machine-Learning-Resource-Document-14ba9e22882a8022a878ee25a3738267?pvs=21)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Host of #wtfiswithnikhilkamath </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p><br></p><p>#YannLeCun Professor at NYU, VP & Chief AI Scientist at Meta</p><p>Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yann-lecun/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yannlecun/</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yann.lecun</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/ylecun</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>**Timestamps:**</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Yann’s Intro</p><p><br></p><p>01:50 Difference between an Engineer and a Scientist</p><p><br></p><p>03:15 Yann’s interest in AI and Mathematics</p><p><br></p><p>04:05 Godfather of AI | Yann’s feelings about it</p><p><br></p><p>05:22 Teaching & fame at NYU</p><p><br></p><p>06:00 Heroes in Science</p><p><br></p><p>07:46 Three problems with the world - Yann’s lens</p><p><br></p><p>10:18 What is AI and how did we get here?</p><p><br></p><p>13:13 What is intelligence? | The Elephant Analogy </p><p><br></p><p>15:00 AI - perception & understanding</p><p><br></p><p>16:20 The two branches of AI - solving & learning</p><p><br></p><p>17:30 Emergence of classical computer science | Heuristic programming</p><p><br></p><p>20:15 Is A.I. inspired from biology?</p><p><br></p><p>26:36 Is building authentic models for finance possible through AI?</p><p><br></p><p>28:36 Different parts of A.I | GOFAI, Machine learning </p><p><br></p><p>30:18 What is GOFAI? </p><p><br></p><p>31:14 Different types of Machine Learning</p><p><br></p><p>32:22 What is Reinforcement learning?</p><p><br></p><p>33:19 What is Self supervised learning? Up & Coming </p><p><br></p><p>35:14 Is AI telling you what you want to hear?</p><p><br></p><p>38:00 What is a transformer?</p><p><br></p><p>40:24 What is a back propagation algorithm?</p><p><br></p><p>42:58 What’s happening in the reinforcement learning space?</p><p><br></p><p>48:06 What is a convolutional neural network ?</p><p><br></p><p>49:08 What is a Neuron - the Machine Learning perspective</p><p><br></p><p>50:00 What is a neural network language model & how does it work?</p><p><br></p><p>58:00 The AI tree | LLMs</p><p><br></p><p>59:55 The next challenge of AI</p><p><br></p><p>1:01:40 - Pictures/ Videos - what's happening there?</p><p><br></p><p>01:03:20 LLM’s limited memory | Types of memory</p><p><br></p><p>01:04:45 AI’s path to human like learning</p><p><br></p><p>01:10:26 What is JEPA ?</p><p><br></p><p>01:11:58 How far in the future can you predict through JEPA ?</p><p><br></p><p>01:14:10 AI’s future prediction - Utopian or Dystopian ?</p><p><br></p><p>01:16:30 The LLM Loop | What needs to change</p><p><br></p><p>01:18:50 Building data centers in India - Yann’s thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>01:21:09 What should a 25 y/o build in the AI space? | Careers in the AI space</p><p><br></p><p>01:26:18 What should an investor invest in | Yann’s future prediction</p><p><br></p><p>01:29:13 What happens to human intelligence in an AI world?</p><p><br></p><p>01:32:09 What is intelligence? | Final Verdict</p><p><br></p><p>01:34:00 The end or just the beginning?</p><p><br></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>A lot of us have heard conjectures around A.I., edge cases of the positive and negative side of A.I., and a lot of us are trying to predict what’s next. Most of my understanding of A.I. comes only from viewing what is apparent today.. reinforcement learning spaces like chat gpt becoming a go-to.. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, we uncover the basics of this mystery of artificial intelligence with one of the founding fathers of A.I., Yann LeCun. We spoke about popular AI myths and broke down complex concepts that can perhaps help the next generation of builders build in this space. </p><p><br></p><p>To learn more about Machine Learning, we’ve collated some sources for your benefit and growth in this industry. </p><p><br></p><p>(https://www.notion.so/Machine-Learning-Resource-Document-14ba9e22882a8022a878ee25a3738267?pvs=21)</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Host of #wtfiswithnikhilkamath </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p><br></p><p>#YannLeCun Professor at NYU, VP & Chief AI Scientist at Meta</p><p>Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yann-lecun/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yannlecun/</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yann.lecun</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/ylecun</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>**Timestamps:**</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 Yann’s Intro</p><p><br></p><p>01:50 Difference between an Engineer and a Scientist</p><p><br></p><p>03:15 Yann’s interest in AI and Mathematics</p><p><br></p><p>04:05 Godfather of AI | Yann’s feelings about it</p><p><br></p><p>05:22 Teaching & fame at NYU</p><p><br></p><p>06:00 Heroes in Science</p><p><br></p><p>07:46 Three problems with the world - Yann’s lens</p><p><br></p><p>10:18 What is AI and how did we get here?</p><p><br></p><p>13:13 What is intelligence? | The Elephant Analogy </p><p><br></p><p>15:00 AI - perception & understanding</p><p><br></p><p>16:20 The two branches of AI - solving & learning</p><p><br></p><p>17:30 Emergence of classical computer science | Heuristic programming</p><p><br></p><p>20:15 Is A.I. inspired from biology?</p><p><br></p><p>26:36 Is building authentic models for finance possible through AI?</p><p><br></p><p>28:36 Different parts of A.I | GOFAI, Machine learning </p><p><br></p><p>30:18 What is GOFAI? </p><p><br></p><p>31:14 Different types of Machine Learning</p><p><br></p><p>32:22 What is Reinforcement learning?</p><p><br></p><p>33:19 What is Self supervised learning? Up & Coming </p><p><br></p><p>35:14 Is AI telling you what you want to hear?</p><p><br></p><p>38:00 What is a transformer?</p><p><br></p><p>40:24 What is a back propagation algorithm?</p><p><br></p><p>42:58 What’s happening in the reinforcement learning space?</p><p><br></p><p>48:06 What is a convolutional neural network ?</p><p><br></p><p>49:08 What is a Neuron - the Machine Learning perspective</p><p><br></p><p>50:00 What is a neural network language model & how does it work?</p><p><br></p><p>58:00 The AI tree | LLMs</p><p><br></p><p>59:55 The next challenge of AI</p><p><br></p><p>1:01:40 - Pictures/ Videos - what's happening there?</p><p><br></p><p>01:03:20 LLM’s limited memory | Types of memory</p><p><br></p><p>01:04:45 AI’s path to human like learning</p><p><br></p><p>01:10:26 What is JEPA ?</p><p><br></p><p>01:11:58 How far in the future can you predict through JEPA ?</p><p><br></p><p>01:14:10 AI’s future prediction - Utopian or Dystopian ?</p><p><br></p><p>01:16:30 The LLM Loop | What needs to change</p><p><br></p><p>01:18:50 Building data centers in India - Yann’s thoughts</p><p><br></p><p>01:21:09 What should a 25 y/o build in the AI space? | Careers in the AI space</p><p><br></p><p>01:26:18 What should an investor invest in | Yann’s future prediction</p><p><br></p><p>01:29:13 What happens to human intelligence in an AI world?</p><p><br></p><p>01:32:09 What is intelligence? | Final Verdict</p><p><br></p><p>01:34:00 The end or just the beginning?</p><p><br></p>]]></description>
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<title >WTF is A.I. Really? Yann LeCun x Nikhil Kamath | People by WTF Ep. 4 Trailer</title>
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<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Artificial Intelligence has undeniably transformed our world. Whether it's for better or worse, one thing is certain: it's here to stay. </p><p><br></p><p>I often find myself debating - will AI eventually replicate human intelligence, or will it remain a powerful tool, an execution engine for humanity? The deeper you dive, the clearer it becomes that the reality is far more nuanced than it seems.</p><p><br></p><p>So, I decided to go back to the basics to figure out how the concept of A.I. even began & finally understand what the systems are that could potentially define our future.. </p><p><br></p><p>Stay tuned for a masterclass with than #YannLeCun#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Host of #wtfiswithnikhilkamath </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p><br></p><p>#YannLeCun Professor at NYU, VP & Chief AI Scientist at Meta</p><p>Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yann-lecun/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yannlecun/</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yann.lecun</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/ylecun</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Artificial Intelligence has undeniably transformed our world. Whether it's for better or worse, one thing is certain: it's here to stay. </p><p><br></p><p>I often find myself debating - will AI eventually replicate human intelligence, or will it remain a powerful tool, an execution engine for humanity? The deeper you dive, the clearer it becomes that the reality is far more nuanced than it seems.</p><p><br></p><p>So, I decided to go back to the basics to figure out how the concept of A.I. even began & finally understand what the systems are that could potentially define our future.. </p><p><br></p><p>Stay tuned for a masterclass with than #YannLeCun#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas </p><p>Host of #wtfiswithnikhilkamath </p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio/</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio/ </p><p><br></p><p>#YannLeCun Professor at NYU, VP & Chief AI Scientist at Meta</p><p>Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yann-lecun/</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yannlecun/</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yann.lecun</p><p>Twitter: https://x.com/ylecun</p>]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x Nandan Nilekani | People by WTF | Ep #3</title>
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<pubDate >Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>India today is a different India, when compared to 10 years ago. A lot of it has to do with The India Stack Journey (a set of open API's & digital public goods). Interesting to note how opportunity to serve at population scale is the theme of these innovations.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, we sat with Nandan Nilekani to understand the trajectory of building this advanced Digital Public Infrastructure in India, which has made a significant impact in each of our day to day lives.</p><p><br></p><p>Time stamps -</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>02:40 - India Stack</p><p>03:25- Journey of Infosys</p><p>06:24 - Imagining India - Digitising the Future</p><p>08:15 - Nandan on meeting Rohini</p><p>09:40 - Journey of India Stack: Aadhar</p><p>13:11 - DPI - Digital Public Infrastructure</p><p>15:07 - Online Authentication & KYC</p><p>17:15 - Jan Dhan Program</p><p>19:00 - E- sign/ Digilocker</p><p>20:40 - 2016 - a big digital transformation for India</p><p>22:36 - BHIM - Ease of Payments</p><p>26:49 - How has UPI changed India’s ecosystem?</p><p>30:00 - Nandan on vision with Population Scale</p><p>32:50 - Account Aggregation</p><p>37:40 - Fast TAG & broad benefits of UPI</p><p>40:10 - What should a 25 y/o build on top of India Stack?</p><p>42:50 - What is Fee Day & Beckn Protocol?</p><p>46:00 - Namma Yatri - Something built on top of Beckn</p><p>49:10 - Nandan on Artificial Intelligence</p><p>55:40 - What is Finternet?</p><p>1:01:20 - Rapid Fire With Nandan</p><p>1:04:00 - Advice to 20 y/o with funding</p><p><br></p><p>Reading Resources for more information -</p><p>https://nksqr.notion.site/Additional-Resources-Nikhil-Kamath-x-Nandan-Nilekani-People-by-WTF-Ep-3-101a9e22882a80dea449edf52c8c1676</p><p>#NikhilKamath - Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas</p><p>Twitter: [https://www.twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio]</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>#NandanNilekani - Co-founder of Infosys, Ex-Chairman of UIDAI</p><p>Twitter - https://x.com/nandannilekani</p><p>#nikhilkamath #WTFiswithNikhilKamath #PeoplebyWTF</p><p><br></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>India today is a different India, when compared to 10 years ago. A lot of it has to do with The India Stack Journey (a set of open API's & digital public goods). Interesting to note how opportunity to serve at population scale is the theme of these innovations.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, we sat with Nandan Nilekani to understand the trajectory of building this advanced Digital Public Infrastructure in India, which has made a significant impact in each of our day to day lives.</p><p><br></p><p>Time stamps -</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>02:40 - India Stack</p><p>03:25- Journey of Infosys</p><p>06:24 - Imagining India - Digitising the Future</p><p>08:15 - Nandan on meeting Rohini</p><p>09:40 - Journey of India Stack: Aadhar</p><p>13:11 - DPI - Digital Public Infrastructure</p><p>15:07 - Online Authentication & KYC</p><p>17:15 - Jan Dhan Program</p><p>19:00 - E- sign/ Digilocker</p><p>20:40 - 2016 - a big digital transformation for India</p><p>22:36 - BHIM - Ease of Payments</p><p>26:49 - How has UPI changed India’s ecosystem?</p><p>30:00 - Nandan on vision with Population Scale</p><p>32:50 - Account Aggregation</p><p>37:40 - Fast TAG & broad benefits of UPI</p><p>40:10 - What should a 25 y/o build on top of India Stack?</p><p>42:50 - What is Fee Day & Beckn Protocol?</p><p>46:00 - Namma Yatri - Something built on top of Beckn</p><p>49:10 - Nandan on Artificial Intelligence</p><p>55:40 - What is Finternet?</p><p>1:01:20 - Rapid Fire With Nandan</p><p>1:04:00 - Advice to 20 y/o with funding</p><p><br></p><p>Reading Resources for more information -</p><p>https://nksqr.notion.site/Additional-Resources-Nikhil-Kamath-x-Nandan-Nilekani-People-by-WTF-Ep-3-101a9e22882a80dea449edf52c8c1676</p><p>#NikhilKamath - Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas</p><p>Twitter: [https://www.twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio]</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>#NandanNilekani - Co-founder of Infosys, Ex-Chairman of UIDAI</p><p>Twitter - https://x.com/nandannilekani</p><p>#nikhilkamath #WTFiswithNikhilKamath #PeoplebyWTF</p><p><br></p>]]></description>
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<title >Ep.3 Trailer | People by WTF: Nikhil Kamath &amp; Nandan Nilekani</title>
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<pubDate >Mon, 16 Sep 2024 13:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Catching up with an old friend and picking his brain about India's tech future. </p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath #NandanNilekani #WTFiswithNikhilKamath #PeoplebyWTF</p>]]></itunes:summary>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x Ranbir Kapoor | People by WTF Ep #2</title>
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<pubDate >Sun, 28 Jul 2024 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>We all signal a version of ourselves that we think the world should see, but rarely show the sides that make us innately human. I think society misrepresents insecurity as a bad thing.. In my opinion, Insecurity with inaction is a bad thing… insecurity leading to action is a superpower.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, we have Ranbir Kapoor. While the film industry seems to be all about glamour and box office numbers, I think it is quite interesting to know bits of the other side.</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas</p><p>Twitter: [https://www.twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/)</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>#RanbirKapoor</p><p><br></p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>We all signal a version of ourselves that we think the world should see, but rarely show the sides that make us innately human. I think society misrepresents insecurity as a bad thing.. In my opinion, Insecurity with inaction is a bad thing… insecurity leading to action is a superpower.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of People by WTF, we have Ranbir Kapoor. While the film industry seems to be all about glamour and box office numbers, I think it is quite interesting to know bits of the other side.</p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas</p><p>Twitter: [https://www.twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio](https://x.com/nikhilkamathcio/)</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>#RanbirKapoor</p><p><br></p>]]></description>
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<title >Ep.2 Trailer | People by WTF: Nikhil Kamath &amp; Ranbir Kapoor</title>
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<pubDate >Thu, 25 Jul 2024 06:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[Just two friends catching up, stay tuned!]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[Just two friends catching up, stay tuned!]]></description>
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<title >Nikhil Kamath x Bill Gates | People by WTF | Ep. #1</title>
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<pubDate >Sun, 16 Jun 2024 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[<p>Episode 1 of ‘People by WTF'; where we have one-on-one conversations with personalities who stand out in various industries! In this 30 min exclusive with Bill Gates, we speak about his experience with India, from his early Microsoft days to his work with The Gates Foundation. We also cover topics such as the role of philanthropy in society, energy transition, the possibilities of AGI, along with its impact on society, money, and jobs. If Bill Gates were a 25-year-old building in India today, what would he do?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas</p><p>Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#BillGates Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates Foundation</p><p>Twitter : https://twitter.com/BillGates</p><p>Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/</p><p>Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/</p><p>Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/</p><p>Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates</p>]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[<p>Episode 1 of ‘People by WTF'; where we have one-on-one conversations with personalities who stand out in various industries! In this 30 min exclusive with Bill Gates, we speak about his experience with India, from his early Microsoft days to his work with The Gates Foundation. We also cover topics such as the role of philanthropy in society, energy transition, the possibilities of AGI, along with its impact on society, money, and jobs. If Bill Gates were a 25-year-old building in India today, what would he do?</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#NikhilKamath Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas</p><p>Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p>Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>#BillGates Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates Foundation</p><p>Twitter : https://twitter.com/BillGates</p><p>Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates/</p><p>Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates/</p><p>Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/</p><p>Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates</p>]]></description>
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<pubDate >Fri, 14 Jun 2024 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
<itunes:summary ><![CDATA[We spoke about AGI, energy transition, philanthropy and more.
Stay tuned!

Nikhil Kamath - Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas
Twitter https://twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio 

Bill Gates - Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates Foundation
Twitter : https://twitter.com/BillGates
Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates
Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates

#nikhilkamath #WTFiswithNikhilKamath #PeoplebyWTF]]></itunes:summary>
<description ><![CDATA[We spoke about AGI, energy transition, philanthropy and more.
Stay tuned!

Nikhil Kamath - Co-founder of Zerodha, True Beacon and Gruhas
Twitter https://twitter.com/nikhilkamathcio
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/nikhilkamathcio
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nikhilkamathcio
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikhilkamathcio 

Bill Gates - Co-founder of Microsoft , Co-chair The Gates Foundation
Twitter : https://twitter.com/BillGates
Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamhgates
Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/thisisbillgates
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/BillGates/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billgates

#nikhilkamath #WTFiswithNikhilKamath #PeoplebyWTF]]></description>
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